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Tinto Flavour #10 - 14th of March 2025 - Scotland

Hello, and welcome one more week to Tinto Flavour, the happy Fridays in which we take a look at the flavour content of the super secret Project Caesar!

Today we will be showing the content for the Kingdom of Scotland. Let’s start without further ado:

Scotland is once again in peril.

A mere generation ago, our national hero King Robert de Bruce freed us from English rule alongside the famous martyr, William Wallace.

Now his successor — the bairn King David II de Bruce — lies exiled in France as our loyal nobility continues their struggle against Balliol, the English king's lackey who falsely claims the Scottish crown.

Though the people of our realm are currently united in our cause, this is not guaranteed to last. Embedded in our kingdom are deep cultural and societal divisions, especially between the wealthy English-speaking Scots burghs of the Lowlands and the Highland people who dwell in the inland hills.

The fate of Scotland is at risk.

A mere generation ago, the illegitimate King Robert de Bruce expelled the English from the country and crowned himself king.

As the legitimate heir of the previous King John de Balliol, his son King Edward de Balliol has laid a claim to the Scottish throne. Along with his English-backed supporters, he plans to fight against the usurper and return Scotland to its legitimate ruler.

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… The only problem for Scotland is that it starts in a civil war between the followers of King David II de Bruce, who is exiled to France, and those of King Edward de Balliol, nominally backed by England. This makes for a very different and interesting setup, therefore. Also, as always, please remember that any UI, 2D and 3D art is WIP, as usual.

This is the starting situation of the Scottish Civil War:
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The starting diplomatic situation of King David II de Bruce:
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France is Guaranteeing, while England is an Enemy (has selected Scotland as a Rival).

And that of King Edward de Balliol:
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England is Guaranteeing, and the Lordship of the Isles is a vassal.

Let’s start with the content related to the Civil War. Both sides have events available for them, but let’s focus on a couple that you get while starting as Scotland - the supporters of the de Bruce dynasty.

This event will trigger early on:

Maybe you can figure out which aspect gets favoured depending on the tutor you pick for the king…?

And also this one:
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You may notice that King David’s name has changed. In the previous event, I selected the second option, the Highlander chieftain, so the culture of the king has changed, and now his name is reflecting that since it has a different variant available.

We’ve made it so the outcome of the Civil War is not an instant end game; if while playing as Scotland you lose it to Balliol, an event will pop up, so you can decide to continue playing with them (or not! That’s up to the player!). This would be the result, thus:
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King Edward de Balliol ruling over a once-again unified Scotland.

Let’s now move towards the structural content that you might find while playing with Scotland. This is a unique starting government reform:
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Scotland also has some unique privileges for the Lairds (Nobility):
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Commissioners (Burghers):
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And Clans (Tribesmen) - this is the way we’re representing the Highlanders from a pop-type perspective, which also allows us to have them operating as a different estate:
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There’s also this law, with three different policies:
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Scotland also has two unique buildings available:
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Also something new, Scotland has available some unique parliament issues in later ages, such as:
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And a bunch of advances; today we will show mostly late-game ones since it had been requested by you previously to show more of this type of content, and also as a good example of some plausible alt-historical content - you may notice that the advances that Scotland has available for the Age of Revolutions, when they already had ceased to exist as an independent polity (since the Acts of Union of 1707), have a historical background:

This is a specific advance for a Balliol-ruled Scotland:
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Related to the latest, there’s a late-game event that may lead you to get this important work of art:
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… And much more, but that’s all for today! My fellow colleagues @SaintDaveUK and @Roger Corominas will be replying instead of me today. And for next week, we will travel south, to take a look at the Kingdom of Ethiopia! Cheers!
 
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Given that Balliol has the rightful claim as recognised by Scotlands overlord the King of England, should it not be that side of the civil war that is described as Scotland and the Bruce/Murray side that gets a different tag?
 
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No, we assume Anglo-Norman and Scoto-Norman to essentially be absorbed into the English and Scots cultures by this point. The lingering influence of the Norman conquest is represented already by the fact that most of the British countries have Norman court language.
I guess that's fine but It's kinda weird considering the ruler themsleves saw themselves as French and didn't speak neither English nor Gaelic
 
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I thought all civil war would offer that option (to keep playing suffering the reality of having lost the civil war), is this one particular because it is a civil war before the start date and therefore required specific work to make it happen, or have the civil war end changed ?

(quote from https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/tinto-talks-32-9th-of-october-2024.1708363/)
No, it's the base behavior of all civil wars, it was just reiterated here in case people hadn't read (or didn't remember) the other post.
 
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Can England and France intervene in the Scottish conflict, and if so, how?
Also is there any difference between the Warbows regiments Balliol get and the Longbow regiments (whatever they may be called) that England will get?
 
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If you form Great Britain historically through England, will you also be able to get the Wealth of Nations event and work of art? It'd be a shame if it was only available to Scotland.
 
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Please add an outcome text before the effects for parliament issues. Currently it looks quite confusing to look at

Something like
"If Parliament issue passes:
We unlock Presbyterian Education Policy, etc"
 
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Most of the advances and reforms I've seen so far are smaller things. 10% towards that, +5 progress towards this. They unlock a unit, a building. Are there anything on the level of EU4's Diwan, Siberian Frontiers, Egyptian Modernization, DOOOOM, that radically change how a nation plays?
 
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Is estate enrichment a new modifier related to this week's TT regarding economy makeup that will reduce the part of estates in the economy ? If so, is the "lost" money for the estate gained money for the crown ?
 
Is the country name is leader surname for all rebellions(Jan Jiskra, Florian Geyer) or only succession wars, also what happens if the succession/claim war has more than 2 side and both pretenders have the same surname (let's say Luxembourg's Bohemia vs Luxembourg pretender vs Luxembourg pretender)
 
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Will Scotland have a unique advancement regarding the Darien Scheme to push it to attempt risky colonization under the right conditions?
 
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Question: There is the Presbyterian education act but what if you aren't Presbyterian? What if you are Lutherian? or Quaker or another branch of protestantism besides Presbyterianism? or you remain Catholic?
There's limitations so that you can only have it when in the appropriate faith.
 
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