I think peoples opinions would be way more positive if not for the game reaching 3 years since release.
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They slowed down because releases were too bugged. And most of their updates have been massive overhaul.
Perfect example of how fantastic and melodramatic some people can be.
Perfect example of how fantastic and melodramatic some people can be.
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Slowness wasnt really the problem, it was the lack of communication. We were left out in the dark and any day they could have come up and say "we tried out many options but nothing works out, thanks for all of the support, bye". Now it is clear that at least the Vicky3 team has a vision and scope of work that needs to be done to fix the game and we just need to wait which isnt that huge of a problem. I love Victoria 3 and I hope to see all the best for the game and if the updates and revisions like that will not stop to come out I will even start buying the dlcs as a way to show my appreciation for all the work on vanilla as I did with sphere of influence which let's be honest isn't a great addition to the game both narrativly and mechanically
Long time player of Vic I & Vic II (+PDM of course) back in the day, for all it's issues, there is no real alternative to Vic 3. They've got me and as long as they continue to make progress, I will keep buying every DLC.
I bought Colossus of the South despite not really having much interest in playing there but I appreciated the patch. Player counts can be an unreliable metric. I usually binge for a week or two after a patch/DLC then won't play for months. I even bought the "Melodies for the Masses Music DLC". You can't stop me, no one can, I'll do it again.
I bought Colossus of the South despite not really having much interest in playing there but I appreciated the patch. Player counts can be an unreliable metric. I usually binge for a week or two after a patch/DLC then won't play for months. I even bought the "Melodies for the Masses Music DLC". You can't stop me, no one can, I'll do it again.
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This post is another example of whiners on the Paradox forums believing that using overly formal language is a substitute for evidence and good points
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Glad to see I'm not the only one. "Flavor" content actually discourages me from playing countries affected with it.
Take Russia after The Great Game, for example. You get "Pacification of the Steppes" Journal Entry, that let's you annex your Kazakh subjects for free, if they're your Puppets and have low Independence Desire. The thing is, game does not inform you in any way, that this results in free annexation, so if you don't know it from the start, you might annex them the "usual" way, using subject interaction. This way, you can accrue unnecessary Infamy, and risk potential DiploPlay and War, if you don't check the wiki beforehand, as the game, I want to stress it again, does not inform you of the outcome in any way. First, the Journal Entry is unnecessary redundant with base game mechanics, second, it makes playing without prior reading of Tag-specific mechanics highly sub-optimal.
That's why, despite owning Colossus of the South, I don't feel like playing any of South American nations. The thought of either getting frustrated with unclear and unfair "flavor" content, or wasting time on checking wiki instead of playing, makes me rather choose some other country instead.
When I saw the announcements of upcoming packs centering on Austria, Balkans, and Iberian Peninsula, I couldn't help, but feel bad about having such interesting countries broken soon.
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Okay this is actually spot on. This exact same thing happened to me. I was stressing out that omg the journal entry is going to run out so I massively dedicated my resources to finish it, sadly I "failed", then I just crushed them and annexed them for free. I was like: "uhm okay game, what a stupid journal entry"
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What GSGs were put out after Vic3?
Field of Glory: Kingdoms, yes. But what others am I missing?
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You can check the steamdb database for GSG sorted by release date. I grant you, this being an user tag can be very deceiving as this is categorized as GSG:
But other games with a GSG category released after Vic 3 include:
PS: seems that CIV series have lost their grand strategy tag in steam:
Also, not in this list is:
And there may be others.
For a fair comparison I think we shall wait for The Gilded Destiny release, if that game ever gets released. And for EU V, although this one has a different scope.
The top GSG games from steamdb are these now, none of the games above Vic3 were released after:
PS: my bad, this game was released after VIC 3 and has more players. Although in my defence it has been released in early access:
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They'll figure out how to run warfare though the travel system one day and CK will become the perfect series
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Calm down, we can discuss ! First, put the mouse down. No one wants a hasty buy, right ? Then, free the keys of the keyboard, they are innocent.
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In fact, I think Victoria 3 has generally been a success. I can provide a simple point of evidence of that: Project Caesar (AKA the "unnannounced not EU5 but definitely going to be EU5).
If you read the dev diaries for Project Caesar, you can quite clearly see the influence of Victoria 3 on it's mechanics and design methodology. It's not the same as Victoria 3, but it shows a clear direction of travel for PDX titles.
Likewise, Stellaris's upcoming new version also seems to have more Victoria 3 influence in it's design.
If Victoria 3 was a failure, the rest of PDX would be running in the opposite direction. That's clearly not the case.
If you read the dev diaries for Project Caesar, you can quite clearly see the influence of Victoria 3 on it's mechanics and design methodology. It's not the same as Victoria 3, but it shows a clear direction of travel for PDX titles.
Likewise, Stellaris's upcoming new version also seems to have more Victoria 3 influence in it's design.
If Victoria 3 was a failure, the rest of PDX would be running in the opposite direction. That's clearly not the case.
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Don't mean to be rude but neither of you check your journal entries when you load in on a new country? It's like five extra minutes and you're doing setup at the start anyway, this would cause you issues in any pdx game
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How do you see Vicky 3 influence in Project Caesar or Stellaris?
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Paradox is pretty much the only company that produces GSGs. There are a few small indie devs attempting to break into the market, Gilded Destiny as the one example.
This is why we have seen PDX try to really differentiate their games compared to the past. They are essentially competing against themselves.
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I do check, and I did this time, too. It said "Russia gets Peaceful Steppes Event" or some equally vague name of Event, that says nothing about potential annexation.
It's worse than EU4 mission trees (which I don't like either), because these at least are clear about their effects. If you load a new country, check the Mission Tree, and notice, that you can PU Hungary along the way as an effect of some mission, you don't try to conquer them.
So, if you fail it, you still get to annex them for free? I didn't know that. It's even worse, now. If both passing and failing the JE lets you annex them free, the worst thing you can do is annex them on your own earlier, as subject interaction (as you gain Infamy and risk war). The thing is, that's what you'd rationally do, if you wanted to annex them. If your intention is to annex the Khazakh states, the most optimal way is to actually abstain from annexing them. That's not just illogical. That's counter-logical. And, I'll say it again, game does not inform you of it in any way.
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Project Caesar is nothing like Victoria 3.
Unless you think pops and markets were invented by Victoria 3 which they weren’t.
Project Caesar is very clearly an iteration of Imperator. 2/3rds of it look like updates to Imperator’s 2.0 design with the rest coming from the EU Series particularly Eu3.
And the Stellaris update is explicitly moving away from the Vicky 3 model. The whole point of the pop redesign is to have pops consolidated by class and profession (like Vicky 2) rather than by building employment which is what Vicky 3 and current Stellaris does.
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You're right!
They wuz invented by Victoria: An Empire Under the Sun way back in 2003 which prompted my joining this quiet, reserved group of forumites.
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Yes, dont bother with them, its hard imo to do them in time. Let it run out, they revolt, crush them easily, voala free annexation. I dislike this journal entry
There is no information about any of these outcomes. Im not playing Vici 3 anymore and I dont have any saves left but feel free to attach a screenshot where it outlines the outcomes of the journal entry.
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