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Tinto Flavour #20 - 23rd of May 2025

Hello, and welcome one more week to Tinto Flavour, the happy Tuesdays & Fridays in which we take a look at the content of Europa Universalis V!

Today we will be taking a look at the content of Muscovy, and its ‘successor state’, Russia, after Grand Prince Ivan III ‘the Great’ proclaimed himself ‘Sovereign of All Russia’. This is a special TF, because it’s the first one in which we show the content for one of the seven ‘Tier 1’ counties, those that we consider the most important in the 1337-1836 period, and thus, that have the most content in the game.

Let’s start taking a look at it, as usual:

The Grand Principality of Muscovy stands at a crossroads of political maneuvering, and economic troubles under the Tatar Yoke, and an ongoing power struggle among East Slavic principalities, each vying for supremacy within the fragmented Rus' territories. The Tatar invasion continues to cast a long shadow over the region and Muscovy, like many other Rus' principalities, remains a tributary to the formidable Golden Horde.

Guiding Muscovy through these complexities is Grand Prince Ivan Rurikovich, a leader keenly aware of the delicate balance required for survival under Tatar dominion. He has skillfully managed the principality's affairs through diplomatic initiatives and strategic alliances and now seeks to consolidate power and enhance Muscovy's standing within the Yoke, with aspirations to unite the Rus' land under one banner.

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As usual, consider all UI, 2D and 3D art WIP.

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This is the starting diplomatic situation of Muscovy:
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Muscovy starts in a Personal Union with a bunch of principalities, including Novgorod, which is a Republic that elects its rulers among those of other countries.

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This is the current starting state of the Tatar Yoke, with Muscovy being entitled as the ‘Grand Prince of Vladimir’ - or, in other words, the ‘tribute collector’ for the Tatars. We won’t talk about this feature today, but in the Tinto Flavour devoted to the Golden Horde.

These are some of the privileges that the Russian countries have available from the start:
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Also, this starting Legal Code Policy:
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Here you have some of the advances available for Muscovy and Russia through the ages, as usual:
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And now let’s move into the narrative content. Muscovy has 109 Dynamic Historical Events available, while there are another 73 unlockable after having formed Russia, which makes for a total of 182 available DHEs - that’s what being a ‘Tier 1’ country means, in regards to content. Many of them will unlock very different types of other content assets, as you’ll see now:

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This is an event that may trigger if Novgorod elects another ruler, as happened historically.

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If you build the Kremlin, there will be further events related to it.

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If Byzantium falls, and some other conditions are met, you might be able to marry a Greek princess, and proclaim your country as the ‘Third Rome’.

If you expand your country, you might be able to form Russia at a certain point:
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The Russian Principalities account for approximately 460 locations, so you need to conquer some more from the Golden Horde to get to the 508 required. I forced it through the console to show it to you, but one of our QA testers made a recent run, and he was able to form it around 1500, OOC.

When the Age of Reformation starts, there will be this advance available for the Russian countries:
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That unlocks:
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It’s also possible for a unique disaster to trigger, the Time of Troubles:
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Time of Troubles has many different events happening, on top of the DHEs:

If you overcome it, there’s even more late-game content, of course:

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… And much more, but that’s all for today! As today is Friday, this will be the schedule for next week:
  • Monday -> Tinto Flavour about Venice and Genoa
  • Tuesday -> Tinto Flavour about Serbia and Georgia
  • Wednesday -> Tinto Talks about the Orthodox and Miaphysite religions
  • Thursday -> Third ‘Behind the Scenes’ video!
  • Friday -> Tinto Flavour about the Roman Empire, AKA Byzantium
And also remember, you can wishlist Europa Universalis V now! Cheers!
 
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Please, for the love of God (no pun intended), please change the "Patriarchs" name for the clergy to "Dukhovenstvo" (Russian equivalent of "Klir").
It makes no sense for it to be called Patriarchs when one Orthodox Church (in this case the Russian one) can only have one Patriarch.
It's like calling the clergy in the Papal States "The Popes".
P.S.: renaming Burghers to "Meshyanstvo" for Russian TAGs would also make more sense.
 
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Also small note - Kremlin should be white, it was repainted after Bolsheviks came to power

Edit: Kremlin can remain red because it wasn’t painted at all for first centuries and had red colour of its bricks
 
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Can foreign powers like Sweden and Poland be involved in the Times of Troubles disaster for example through special events and casus bellis?

Polish magnates supported one of the pretenders and later there even was an opportunity to put a son of a Polish king on a throne of Russia after some boyars elected him. I wonder if such outcome will be possible.
Yes, there are events regarding that.
 
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Will there be any flavour for Lithuania? This time period was the most significant in terms of expansion and events, so it would be cool to see this reflected in the game. And is it possible to form the PLC with them?
 
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The formation of the Russian Empire by the 1500s sounds too fast, considering that in reality by that time it had only been possible to end formal tributary dependence on the Horde and "assemble" the Russian principalities. EU4 had the mechanics of Westernization, reflecting the series of reforms of Peter the Great and the general course of the country in the 18th century, is there something similar in EU5 that could prevent such a rapid formation of an empire?
I'm included to agree if that means reaching something like irl 1700 borders by 1500 in game. However, from the post it seems like they may be taking the 1400s proclamation of Sovereign of All Russia to be functionally the declaration of Russian Empire rather than Peter's declaration in 1700s.

TLDR: All Russian principalities plus a little extra by 1500 not egregious, while taking the steppe and Ukraine by 1500 would be egregious. You might wind up quitting the game in 1600 (maybe 1700 if you try to dismantle ottos) because there are no challenges left. At what year you can declare "Russia" won't hurt gameplay as much imo.
 
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The formation of the Russian Empire by the 1500s sounds too fast, considering that in reality by that time it had only been possible to end formal tributary dependence on the Horde and "assemble" the Russian principalities. EU4 had the mechanics of Westernization, reflecting the series of reforms of Peter the Great and the general course of the country in the 18th century, is there something similar in EU5 that could prevent such a rapid formation of an empire?
How is it too fast if the Russian Tsardom (which is what the Empire should be called) was formed in 1547
 
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If I interpret correctly, you get events spread over 10 years, and at the end the whole province is colonised? Independent of the number if locations, number of locations already owned, where the target province is located, ...

And then you restart the whole thing for the next province?

If even remotely true, can you share the Siberia province map?

Guessing/hoping I'm wrong as to the lack of parameters :p
 
I'm surprised that neither Brandenburg nor the Timurids and their successor states are not considered Tier 1. I'd be surprised if it isn't:
  • England
  • France
  • Moscow
  • Spain
  • Portugal
And the remaining two are among China, the Ottomans, Austria, and Poland, in that order of likelihood in my mind.

If I'm right, that's pretty regionally concentrated on Western Europe, but it looks like there's a decent amount of content outside of the tier 1, so hopefully it's enough to keep the rest of the world interesting until content updates bring other areas into similar levels of flavour. I almost wish I didn't know there was an internal group of countries with priority, even if it makes sense to have.

I don't think Portugal is considered a tier 1 flavoured country. It's just that small.
My guess is:

  • England
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  • Muscovy
  • Spain
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  • Ottomans
  • Austria
 
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regarding Russia's formation i think it would be fair in the game if it formed in 1721 as the Empire, while the Russian tsardom historically from 1547 until 1721 would still be regarded as Moscovy
 
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Why does the kormenlije privelege have the symbol for the nobility estate in the top right section, while the Ryad doesn't?
Do they affect the same estate?
They're in different sections of the UI, one in the Estate view, and the other in the Privilege selection panel. Reporting to our UI team, to check if it's WAD, or a bug.
 
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@Pavía what about the Tatar yoke IO? Muscovy starts as it’s leader no? Can you divulge more info or is that for the Golden Horde TT?

Also please please please do not use Patriarchs wtf??? Either Holy Synod or Clergy.
 
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Seems cool! I'm wondering if the removal the Tatar Yoke will be a gradual process with multiple distinct events, or like the 100 Years' War?
As being an IO, it's more organical/mechanical compared to disasters and situation, which are more narrative, as having a mix of actions and events attached to them.
 
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