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Tinto Flavour #21 - 26th of May 2025

Hello, and welcome one more week to Tinto Flavour, the happy Mondays (some), Tuesdays & Fridays in which we take a look at the flavour content of Europa Universalis V!

Today, we will take a look at the two most powerful Merchant Republics of Europe, Venice and Genoa!


Let’s start taking a look at Venice:

The Most Serene Republic of Venice is the most important and powerful of the merchant republics in the Mediterranean Sea. It controls important trade ports and islands in the Eastern Mediterranean, which form the Stado do Mar, and many inland territories in the North of Italy, which form the Domini di Terraferma.

Nonetheless, the lagoon city cannot lower its guard, as new threats arise around it. In the East, the once great Byzantine Empire will not easily forget the Fourth Crusade and the Venetian involvement in it. In the West, the Superb Republic of Genoa and the Crown of Aragon are continuing to expand their influence, conquering more territory and dominating trade routes. And at last, the Signoria of Verona have grown to be a noticeable threat to the Domini di Terraferma.

What will the future hold for the Most Serene Republic? Will it fall under the pressure of its enemies, or will it rise to the top and become the indisputable ruler of the Mare Nostrum?
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The 3 subjects of Venice are Candia, Ragusa, and Trieste. As usual, take any UI, 2D and 3D art as WIP.

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As you may have seen in one of my forum posts or Reddit, Venice is now an island! Here you also have the full extension of its Stado de Mar, with all its subjects (which, at the highest zoom levels, have their name replaced by that of the overlord, as it happens here with Candia).​

Venice is a very unique Republic, which starts with some unique reforms and privileges at the start of the game:
Venice Reform Concil of Forty.png

Venice Reform Council of Ten.png


Venice Privilege Zonta.png

Venice Privilege Avogadoria do Comun.png

Venice Privilege Libro dOro.png

Venice Privilege Libro d'Argento.png

It also hosts some works of art, some of them sacked from Constantinople in the Fourth Crusade:
Venice Works of Art.png

Here is a selection of the advances available for Venice:
Venice Advance Arsenal.png

Venice Building Arsenal.png

Venice Advance Thalassocracy.png

Venice Advance Stato do Mar.png

Venice Advance Venetian Palaces.png

Venice Building Venetian Palaces.png

Venice Advance Magistrato alla Sanita.png

Venice Advance Heavy Naval Tactics.png

And a few of its flavour events:
Venice Event Piazza San Marco.png

Venice Building Piazza San Marco.png


Event Promissione Ducale.png

Venice Reform Promissione Ducale.png


Venice Event Tizziano.png


Let’s now take a look at Genoa:

The city of Genoa stands out as the most important commercial port in the Western Mediterranean, its Republic having expanded its influence overseas through trade and war.

After defeating the Republic of Pisa, it gained the island of Corsica and established a foothold in Sardinia. However, this might have been a poisonous gift, as it may now face not only the opposition of its inhabitants, but also that of King Pere IV the Ceremonious de Barcelona, self-proclaimed sovereign of both islands.

Another challenge may arise from the east, as a network of possessions has created the conditions for a commercial dominance over the Black Sea, centered around the port of Kaffa; although dangerous neighbors such as Venice, Byzantium, or the Golden Horde might be a threat.

Relying on our numerous Fondaco and wealthy bankers, will Genoa overcome these challenges?
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The Genoese ‘mainlad’, plus its Mediterranean possessions.​

Genoa also starts with a couple of unique reforms:
Genoa Refomr Diarchy Republic.png

Genoa Reform compagna Comunis.png

Since we’re not able to have two or more rulers for a country in the game, we’re portraying the Genoese Diarchy by having Galeotto Spinola and Raffaello Doria present as characters at start, and the bonuses you see in the reform.​

Genoa also starts with some Works of Art:
Genoa Works of Art.png

It also has a quite important unique building:
Genoa Building Fondaco.png

And here you have some of the unique advances:
Genoa Advance Banking Traditions.png

Genoa Advance Slave Galleys.png

Genoa Building Slave Barracks.png

Genoa Advance Genoese Galley.png

Genoa Unit Genoese Galley.png

Genoa Advance Genoese Crossbowmen.png

Genoa Advance 28 Alberghi.png

Genoa Reform 28 Alberghi.png

Genoa Advance The Age of the Genoese.png

Here you have some of the flavour events of Genoa:
Genoa Event Merchant Republic.png

Genoa Event Merchant Republic2.png

Genoa Event Merchant Republic3.png

Genoa Event Merchant Republic4.png


Genoa Event Monaco.png

Genoa Building Rock of Monaco.png


Genoa Event Andrea Doria.png

Event Doge Andrea Doria.png

Genoa Reform Great and Minor Councils.png

An old EU4 friend, coming back in a revisited form!​

Oh, and last, but not least, and related to the Byzantine content that we’ll take a look at on Friday, both countries have some unique foreign buildings in Constantinople:
Venice Building Venetian Quarter.png

Genoa Building Galata.png

… And much more, but that’s all for today! And tomorrow, there will be a Tinto Flavour devoted to Serbia and Georgia!

And also remember, you can wishlist Europa Universalis V now! Cheers!
 
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I know its not polite... but my brain cant help but think of this DD as the "Italian Armpit Combo" DD lol

I also really like that "highlight" mapview mode. Maybe it's been shown or pointed out before, but still wanted to mention it.

Also, Venice is an island, yay. Maybe my requests for similar changes in other areas can be done as well....? :D ???

*dies hoping*
 
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Sorry about the delay, but today has been for a good reason: With a draft document of 42 pages-long, this is one of the longest Tinto Flavour up to date, and I've also had to restructure it a bit, as I've hit the maximum number of screenshots per post allowed in the forum (and we're just showing a fraction of the flavour content for these countries, lol).
 
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Kind of a niche question, but if I play as the ERE, occupy Venice, and steal back the Horses of Saint Mark, is there some acknowledgement of that?
 
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There are a bunch of buildings shown in this diary that seem unique to the locations of Venice and Genoa, are they? Or can they be build elsewhere? If unique, is there some UI element that shows this? And of course, a map mode for them so I can continue my beloved activity of collecting them?
 
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  1. How is the Scaliger war portrayed?
  2. How is the existing dominance of the Venetians in the European spice trade portrayed?
  3. How is the extensive slave trade both took part in portrayed? Are they already taking part in it at the start of the game?
  4. There's plenty of mention of the patrician families in the flavour, but are they mechanically represented, for example by the Doge always being elected from amongst them?
  5. Are there mechanics to incentivize the sorts of wars these two trade republics had - where they barely traded land, largely fought at sea, and either did not really concede anything to one another during peace, or did so with economic concessions?
 
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Historically speaking both nations didnt require to form large empires. Trading was the aim and both nations prospered through the means of trade. Will I (as the player) be incentified to expand less and trade a lot or how exactly (if at all) is trade intertwined with Venice/Genoa gameplay?

E.g. Genoa was in Crimea for the slave trade. There was not much of a reason to control let's say eastern/western Ukraine. However in EU4 doing so would yield more trade with very little downside. Will it be the same in EU5?
 
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Will there be events after conquest of constantinople by ottomans about relations with venetian and genovese merchants
 
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Do I see correctly that Mentese and Germyanyanaydids's colours were changed?
Cool, now I only await for Bulgaria to turn Dark Green, so I can die in peace
 
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