Diadochi Alliances

[Bobolicious1]

I’m a new player (finished tutorial and done a lot of wiki learning), and I am 24 years into a (so far quite successful) Sparta run. I recently (about 3 years ago) got an Alliance with Macedon, but I’m starting to have second thoughts. The Antigonids were fairly successful in the previous Diadochi war, winning a fair chunk of Greece and losing a few territories to Egypt.

Not long before I made the alliance, a few small Greek vassals of Macedon declared independence, which I didn’t see until after I made the Alliance, though Macedon never called me into those wars. The Antigonids, however have only lost one feudatory, which they immediately invaded and annexed.

Would an Alliance with the Antigonids be better?

ote: Egypt is out of the question, as they have territories in Achaea and Arcadia that I want (and need for Missions), and I will hopefully be able to invade the Nile Delta during the Diadochi War, exploiting their zero forts to win a lot of gold and a large number of slaves. So are the Seleukids, but that’s because of Diplo range.

 

[manager2525]

It seems that the Antigonids were quite successful in your game if they have managed to take over part of the kingdoms of Thrace and Macedon without loosing much land in Asia. Probably Macedon is now quite weaker (a screenshot would help). For your early wars in South Greece Macedon is a good ally however long term it is in the way of your expansion/missions. Antigonids are also in the way but only after you beat Macedon. If the Antigonids except you as an ally and you see them having the upper hand against the Seleucids and Ptolemies than you should definitely get an alliance with them. To be honest though my usual pick for an alliance when playing in modern Greece region is the Ptolemies once I kick them out of their holdings there. The reason is that later on they can help by creating a second front against the growing power of the Seleucids (or the Antigonids if they have come on top). As a general rule do not fear to switch alliances if this helpful for you.

 

[Bobolicious1]

It seems that the Antigonids were quite successful in your game if they have managed to take over part of the kingdoms of Thrace and Macedon without loosing much land in Asia. Probably Macedon is now quite weaker (a screenshot would help). For your early wars in South Greece Macedon is a good ally however long term it is in the way of your expansion/missions. Antigonids are also in the way but only after you beat Macedon. If the Antigonids except you as an ally and you see them having the upper hand against the Seleucids and Ptolemies than you should definitely get an alliance with them. To be honest though my usual pick for an alliance when playing in modern Greece region is the Ptolemies once I kick them out of their holdings there. The reason is that later on they can help by creating a second front against the growing power of the Seleucids (or the Antigonids if they have come on top). As a general rule do not fear to switch alliances if this helpful for you.

Yeah the Ptolemies only have territories in Achaea and Arcadia, which I’m in the process of annexing. Egypt is last on my list of states in the area, and I’m debating whether to try and sneak my levies over the completely unfortified Nile Delta, for gold and slaves, not territory. The Antigonids lost a small bit of their Eastern territories, and their Greek territories are mostly islands with a big clump of territories neighbouring Macedon. Thrace was fairly successful, and Macedon shrunk.