167) FEEDBACK: default vassal laws

[Brownbeard]

default vassal laws

Crusader Kings v1.01

why do all the new vassal have this combination of laws:

semisalic primogeniture
traditional custom
ecclestial balance

should they not have the same laws as the liege who granted them the title?

ie. i have salic primogeniture, royal preorgatory and regal supremacy, shouldn't my newly granted vassal have the same as default? they might change them later, but...

this esp. makes the efficiency of royal preorgatory and popular law questionable, since their main pro is to ban private warfare

BUG or WAD?

 

[Grosshaus]

Seems like a bug, although some consideration should be taken. Like in case the the liege has elective law it would be unlikely vassals were to have the same law, instead they normally got some other inheritance law that traces family.

So I'd propose making it like this:

Custom and ecclestial laws are inherited from the liege always.
Inheritance law is inherited from the liege, but in case the liege has elective the new vassal gets semisalic primogeniture.

Does this sound reasonable?

 

[Brownbeard]

pretty much, except, if venice creates a duke equivalent, should that not be an elective title as well?

 

[Cat Lord]

I am not sure at all it's a bug...

Maybe this choice of laws was deliberate to make AI life simpler...

I would agree that the law should be inherited from the Liege, but the succession law which should be the most advantageous (salic or semi-salic).

What do other think ?

Cat

 

[Brownbeard]

i have nothing about the ai changing the law afterwards, but the liege law should be default (this esp. influences troop regiment structure difference)

 

[Solmyr]

The laws mentioned above seem to be the "default" for everyone not mentioned as having other laws. In the scenario files, numerous countries (usually various minor counties) have no laws set, and those are the ones they use.
Should really be changed so that the liege's laws are the default for vassals.

 

[unmerged(2456)]

It really depends on how good the AI is at changing their laws to suit them.