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1950s The Post War Order.

This is my first AAR, comments and advice are more than welcome.

The basis for this game came after a Comm Chi/USA campaign.

I took over as Comm Chi in 1936, and did quite well up to 1942 until I noticed Germans in Mongolia.....clearly if the Nazis won, I would have no chance of winning.

So I took over the USA in 1942 and landed in France with the 150 or so units that were busy sitting around in Washington DC doing absolutely nothing.

I could run through the American war from 1943-52, but that is going to take a very very long time.

A summary follows:

Taken from A History of the Third World War, by Dr. William Hammondsworth. Chapter One: Its origins.

The German armies were routed in the Brest landings, and were pushed back to the Rhine without much difficulty by 1947, whereupon stalemate resulted. In the Pacific Theatre, Japan lost the home islands by 1946, but had too much on the Asian mainland for outright annexation. The rather less advantageous option of setting up a puppet state was taken, with the immediate effect of granting Nationalist China its lost lands and the added bonus of Japanese fighting against Germans in Central Asia.

The development of the tritium bomb in 1946, and the development of a host of advanced B29 strategic bombers the following year turned the tide in the US's favour. By 1947 Italy was annexed, and the line was pushed to central Germany, Lubeck-Hannover-Wurzburg, in 1950, after copious use of nuclear weaponry.

Germany proved to be rather resistant, and the Allied focus was shifted to the Balkans. Within a year, Bulgaria and Romania were defeated. The USSR, faced with unguarded German Siberia, decided to retake its lost lands with their formidable militia armies. The depletion of German manpower also meant the end of the rather shortlived Nazi colony of India, and the subsequent execution of the Indian Nazi collaborator, Subhas Chandra Bose.
[see this link, Indians in the Waffen SS!! http://www.wssob.com/000legind.html]

Argentina, for some inexplicable reason, decided to hop on the Axis bandwagon at this late stage. They were promptly dealt with by an American task force which only saw two months of fighting in total.

By 1951, German Norway had been liberated by the British and Saudi Arabian armies, and Germany was on its last legs, holding out in the Ukraine and Belarus.

Persia was annexed in late 1951 by Britain, and Germany was finally defeated by American armies in Western Russia. The Americans and Soviets shook hands on the eastern bank of the Dnieper River, and peace came at last.....or so the world thought.

The British Empire, meanwhile, was bankrupted by 14 years of continuous war. Its colonies demanded independence, with India being the most realistic candidate for breakaway from the Empire. The Indian populace did not fight the British, and later the Germans, only to see themselves ruled by a white Viceroy once again. The likes of Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, Jawaharlal Nehru, and Mohammad Ali Jinnah staged a massive non cooperation movement against the British, with great effect. Britain had yet to reestablish control over the subcontinent, and had received a clear message from the White House that it would not be endorsing colonialism anywhere in the world by taking part in aiding the European powers reestablish control over their former colonies. Within two weeks, Britain had allowed the independence of India, and swiftly transported her troops to Eastern Europe to assist in restoring order to former German satellites. [note: I took over as Britain and granted independence]

Indonesia became independent of the Netherlands in August 1952 under the leadership of Sukarno. The Dutch, having other priorities in Europe, could do little to stop the Indonesian army. [note: I took over as Netherlands and gave them independence]

France and Britain held on to their African possessions, but within a decade these too would break free from the chains of empire as the winds of change sweep across the dark continent.

Within years of the Allied victory, war erupted in East Asia once again. The two Chinas, no longer part of the Allies, found themselves at war with a resurgent Japanese Empire, which had resented their defeat at the hands of the Americans seven years earlier. The limited American presence in the country was slaughtered, and with Japanese forces spread throughout China, formerly as Allied soldiers, the Japanese high command thought the gamble of reestablishing their presence in China before Allied intervention was worth taking. Moreover, Japanese intelligence had reported that the elderly Stalin had decided to destroy the Western capitalist scum once and for all, much to the dismay of his generals. That, however, could provide enough time for Japan to launch its bid for Asian dominance once again....
 
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woah! Cool game. I had a hard time keeping track of all the twists!

*waiting for update with baited breath
 
Thank you for the comments!

I still have to make a few changes to the map, but as of yet I havent figured it out.

Taiwan still belongs to Japan - I want to edit this so it belongs to Nat China.

Various provinces in Spain still belong to Britain, since Spain was liberated by France. I need to get those provinces belonging to Spain again.

France's capital is still in Cayenne....

Bits and pieces of Siam still belong to Britain.

Same sort of problems all over the place.

Also, all the Pacific islands should belong to the US since Japan was defeated.

Anyone know how? Presumably its editing the save game but I'm at a loss so far.

When all that's done I can start this properly.
 
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This one will be most interesting.
 
Originally posted by ptan54
By 1951, German Norway had been liberated by the British and Saudi Arabian armies, and Germany was on its last legs, holding out in the Ukraine and Belarus.

:rofl: Yeah, those desert fighters do real well in the far north... Good job, so far.
 
November 1952.

Although President Alfred Smith [note, Smith died in 1944, but Paradox has him as the Democratic challenger in 1944 if the incumbent is Republican]
had conducted America's state of affairs with commendable vigour during 1944-1952, the Democratic Party simply had no candidate to match the Republican candidate for President, war hero Dwight Eisenhower. Eisenhower won by a landslide.

Results:

Popular Vote
(Rep) Dwight D. Eisenhower 55.5%
(Dem) Adlai E. Stevenson 44.4%
Others 0.4%

Electoral Vote
Dwight D. Eisenhower 442
Adlai E. Stevenson 89

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Music: Stars and Stripes Forever
http://www.dws.org/sousa/ra/dws-ssf.ram

King George VI of Britain died on 4th February 1952, and was succeeded by Queen Elizabeth II, crowned in traditional pomp, circumstance, and splendour on 2nd June 1953.

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Video: http://www.mpimedia.com/video/featured_clips/060203.mov

Churchill meanwhile retired from British politics at the end of 1952, and was knighted by the Queen in 1953. Labour however won the General Election of 1952 by a landslide, with Clement Atlee now leading the nation.

France, under President Charles De Gaulle, was in the twilight of the Fourth Republic. French West Africa and Algeria were becoming problems for Paris, especially the latter, where the Front Liberation Nationale soon began a campaign of what France labelled as "terror" in late 1953. [In our timeline 1954, I assume a longer war makes the French govt war weary]. Morocco and Tunisia were to become independent in 1954 [OTL 1956], and the eight federated states of French West Africa achieved independence in 1958 [OTL 1960]. De Gaulle was soon to declare the French Fifth Republic at the height of the Algerian war of independence in 1957, the Constitution of which granted greater Presidential Powers. At any rate, in his attempt to pursue an independent French foreign policy, he led France out of what he perceived to be an Anglo American dominated alliance soon after the war.

Other "minors":
Spanish constitutional monarchy installed under Don Juan de Borbon y Battenberg. [father of current King Juan Carlos]

Eastern European countries were granted independence, with constitutions drawn up by Western allies and "generous assistance and guidance towards the path of democracy" by Washington.

Italy remained under British and American occupation, and Germany was divided into the British and American sectors. [No French sector, sorry, in OTL they only got one because Churchill wanted to be nice and give them one, the US was opposed to this. Since the US takes many more casualties in this war, I assume they won't budge on this issue]

All former Nazi occupied territories were given independence.

The USSR struggled to recover from the 50 million losses it took during the Great Patriotic War of 1940-1952. Stalin, in the final years of his life, attempted to reassert control over lands that had been lost to him by summarily executing anyone found "guilty" by the NKVD, and received "special emergency powers necessary for the rebuilding of the Soviet Union" from the Supreme Soviet. The Baltic States and the Ukraine had declared independence, despite strong Allied objections, but they were soon dealth with. Stalin announced that they were "liberated from their despicable fascist dictators by the glorious soldiers of the Red Army. These traitors and their collaborators will be reeducated and tried as Enemies of the People! The formerly oppressed masses of the liberated territories will once again be amongst the vanguard of the Revolution! Let us continue the work of Comrade Lenin, onward for the Victory of Communism in our invincible Union, onward for World Revolution!"

Music: Soyuz Nerooshimi Respooblik Svobodnik
http://www.funet.fi/pub/culture/russian//lyrics/political/sovnat1.wav

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Tovarisch Stalin, Man of the People.

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Tovarisch Stalin, Glorious leader of the USSR!

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Onward for the Victory of Communism! With Stalin at the helm, workers of the world will triumph!

http://stalin.hotmail.ru/stalin_doklad.mpg
Excerpt Stalin's victory speech. Sincere apologies to anyone who understands Russian, its just one of the rare Stalin videos I found online.

[In this timeline the USSR is very far from having nuclear capability. I checked the ledger, finding that most of their troops are militia. I will probably have to wait for 1960 to start the war, to give them time to recover.]

In China, Manchuria, Xinjiang, and Shaanxi were Chinese Soviets under the leadership of Mao Zedong. [this turned out better than I thought - never expected Mao to take Manchuria, very historical]. Meanwhile, the United States had had enough of Chiang Kai Shek's corrupt regime, it was said that for every dollar the US provided Chiang with, more than half of it ended up in an American bank account! The Chinese civil war raged on with minimal American support, and a war weary Chinese populace which began to tire of Guomindang corruption and their failure to solve the problem of massive peasantry poverty. Mao bided his time for launching an attempt for the liberation of China - he had to prove that he offered a better alternative than Chiang. He had successfully convinced the populace of the countryside that communism was the answer to their troubles. Land was taken from landlords and redistributed amongst the landless peasants, on occasion landlords were shot, by and large they lived on as "reeducated" civilians of the Chinese Soviet.

Japan, the only Axis country that was not under Allied military occupation, gave up its Pacific holdings to the United States and the island of Taiwan to the Republic of China. [maybe we'll get a Taiwan vs China standoff] The country is nominally a democracy, but the military still holds enormous sway. [in this timeline the Japanese military was not reduced and disbanded, as the Allies needed as many men as possible to fight Germany in Asia]. The Republic of Korea was granted independence, with full American backing.

I won't mention the Jewish people and Israel here. On the verge of violating forum policy. All I'll say is a longer war, longer Nazi presence in Eastern Europe.

Now, if someone will enlighten me on how to edit province ownership in saved games.....
 
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This sounds very interesting.
Save game editing:
1. ALWAYS make a back-up copy before editing.
2. I think you'll just have to edit the Owned Provinces and Controlled Provinces lines for each nation. You can check the IDs (numbers) of the provinces from Hearts of Iron/db/province.csv file. Remember to remove the numbers from their previous owner.
 
You could simply delete the proper nuclear techs required for weapons from the tech file. Good luck and cool game
 
At the current time, I'm USA.

However I've researched every damn tech in the tree.

I have 4 bombs a year.

If a war breaks out I fear I'll be walking all over the USSR at will....:( not overly fun is it?

Maybe I'll switch to the Comintern and see what happens.....

BTW no updates until friday, got exams to deal with!
 
Dear viewers.

I've run into a logical impasse.

The USSR is far far too weak to wage war upon the USA.

If I play as the US it will be all too easy.

If I play as the USSR it will take years of buildup.....

Can someone suggest how this should go?

I can skip the boring bits.....
 
give the russians some techs and make up a strory like some AMerican equipment on loan to the Chinese to fight the communist is captured in an engagement and the equipment is sent to Moskow where reverse engineering unlocks the secrets of the west.

thats the best i could comeup with but it would wrk into your story
 
Originally posted by ptan54
Thank you for the comments!

I still have to make a few changes to the map, but as of yet I havent figured it out.

Taiwan still belongs to Japan - I want to edit this so it belongs to Nat China.

Various provinces in Spain still belong to Britain, since Spain was liberated by France. I need to get those provinces belonging to Spain again.

France's capital is still in Cayenne....

Bits and pieces of Siam still belong to Britain.

Same sort of problems all over the place.

Also, all the Pacific islands should belong to the US since Japan was defeated.

Anyone know how? Presumably its editing the save game but I'm at a loss so far.

When all that's done I can start this properly.

Most of those can be remedied by editing the controlled and owned provinces lists in the national data in the savegame.

For Cayenne, though, you'll need to go to the Cayenne province data and delete the line "capital = yes", then go to Paris and add the line "capital = yes".
 
Finally, an update.

The Potsdam Conference of July 1952 had established Europe's new borders.

[Note: I am using Angelfire to host the images. Bandwidth is a huge problem.]

Poland, just as in our timeline, received Pomerania, Silesia, and everything up to the Oder.

Germany was divided into the American and British sector. No French sector because their contribution was less than minimal, and no Soviet sector since the USSR was thoroughly humiliated at the hands of Nazi Germany, American troops met them over the river Dnieper deep into Russian territory.

Russia does however get Memel for its efforts, as well as northern Persia for its contributions in that front.

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In Asia, a tentative peace exists between the Republic of China and Mao's Communist guerillas, who have taken control of Xinjiang and Manchuria. Mao promptly relocated his centre of operations from the barren wastes of Shaanxi to the rich industrial region of the North East.

Notice the existence of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea in our timeline). The Soviets were never threatened in the Far East and have slowly built up loyal communist cadres in Korea, culminating in this communist leaning government under Kim Il Sung.

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Early hours of 5th March 1953
Outside Moskva, Stalin's country home.
[NOTE: The rationale for the following episode is from this link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2793501.stm]

The other guards went off to bed.

But Pyotr Lozgachev was suspicious. Comrade Stalin had never given permission for the guards to take the night off. It was simply not in his demeanor to be slack about security. Stalin would taunt the guards by saying 'Want to go to bed?' and stare into our eyes, Lozgachev thought. As if we'd dare! Of course we were glad we got this order. But something is afoot.....

No....it cannot be! Pyotr had suddenly realised that there was no evidence of Stalin giving the order. It was the main guard, Khrustalev. Why would he want to do this? Surely it cannot be for good reasons.....No, I must run back and prevent what evil he is plotting.

Meanwhile.....

Stalin tossed and turned in his bed. For some reason he could not sleep tonight. He had a foreboding sense of danger. But then again he always did. Only yesterday he had a guard executed for looking suspicious. It was certainly a fail safe solution. No man, no problem. Five minutes went by. Fifteen. Half an hour. Still he could not sleep. Then, he seemed to hear something.

The door slowly creaked open. Stalin became alert. Who dared to enter his abode without his permission? But he stayed still - who knows what the enemy brings? The sounds of footsteps edged closer to the bed. Stalin pretented to turn in his sleep. The footsteps stopped. Stalin could barely make out the silhoutte of a uniformed man, bent over, holding a syringe. An assassination attempt?!! On me???

The would be assailant, Khrustalev, slowly edged towards the seemingly asleep Stalin. As he prepared to move the needle to Stalin's neck, the Man of Steel reacted.

"HOW DARE YOU DO THIS, YOU DOG!" cried Stalin as his surprisingly strong grip stopped the hand.

"Your time is up old man! You will die today!" said Khrustalev.

Stalin kicked him in the groin, Khrustalev fell back.

"Guards! Seize the traitor!"

Nobody came.

"Do you think I would be stupid enough to leave you guarded? I had wanted to kill you nicely, but you force me to other measures!"

SLOW MOTION.......

Khrustalev's hand inches towards his silenced pistol.....
Stalin's hand inches towards his gun.......

Half a second later.

The door came crashing down, as Pyotr Lozgachev stormed into the room. Bullets streamed forth from the AK-47, and Khrustalev lay dead.

Stalin was in shock. He had barely survived this assassination attempt. On him, the Man of the People. What manner of low life, ungrateful scum would kill HIM, who had led the nation to victory in the Great Patriotic War?

"I am indebted to you, young man. You will receive the Order of Lenin when this affair is over."

Pyotr blurted out all his suspicions.

Stalin pondered the facts, and decided on a plan. One which would root out the insurgents entirely.

07:00 hours.

Pyotr announced Stalin's death to the NKVD [note: this will be renamed to KGB very soon]. Immediately, he heard a voice on the other side. "We have succeeded!" exclaimed an excited voice. After the call was made, Stalin knew who his enemies were. He knew the voice. A man he had considered to be worthy of being his successor. Lavrenty Beria.

Immediately he prepared to go to the Kremlin. Preparations were also made with his most trusted elite guards to accompany him and occupy key places in Moscow.

Noon, near the Kremlin.
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Stalin remained hidden in his armoured car. He received news from loyal agents that Beria would be holding a conference to discuss the aftermath of his death. Picking himself as the successor no doubt. So far the "news" of his death remained secret, and Stalin used this to his advantage. He had already contacted the army, and ordered it to surround the Kremlin at 16:00.

15:00. Inside the Kremlin, Beria, Khrushchev, Malenkov are meeting with other Party Members. They debate long and hard about how to deal with this "sudden" and "tragic" loss of Great Leader Stalin. So hard, in fact, that they do not notice the sounds of a scuffle breaking out beyond the doors.

Then they stopped. Gunshots were fired, and soldiers stormed into the room.

"What is the meaning of this! Is this an armed revolt?" demanded Beria.

A familiar figure walked into the room, flanked by body guards.

"On the contrary, it is you who are the one attempting to instigate rebellion and unrest. Fire!"

The traitors were gunned down by a flurry of machinegun fire. Some vainly tried to escape, only to find that all the other doors were also guarded. Within 30 seconds, the carnage was complete, and the enemies of the people lay dead.

Even the Capitalist magazine Time praised Stalin's efforts.

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"Ah, I believe the other army groups should be done rooting out the traitors in Leningrad and Kiev..."

Within 24 hours of the Righteous and Glorious Crushing of the Enemies of the People, everyone involved in the plot, or remotely connected to it, was shot.

Stalin had consolidated his iron grip on power, and made a speech extolling the virtues of true Communists and denouncing revisionists and insurgents as non-humans to be liquidated. Tighter security measures would be needed in future........

Meanwhile, the Glorious People of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics rejoiced, for their father was alive and well.

Music: The Internationale
http://www.angelfire.com/pq/svechka/Political_USSR_Internationale.mp3

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July 1953
Washington DC, White House.

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"Mr President, I must strongly insist that the recommendations in my report be implemented! Fascism is dead, but the evils of Communism must be contained! If the Russkies are allowed to advance by an inch, the dominos will collapse and Asia will fall! I insist that we continue supplying Generalissimo Chiang's war effort against the communists!" [George Kennan, architect of US containment policy]

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"George, how long has this country been at war? Ten years. For a decade we fought virtually alone against Hitler's armies, and we've only had this peace for a year. We'll continue to support our Chinese ally, but only in material terms. We won't have our boys fighting in Asia after all their hard work. The Russians have been decimated by the Nazi invasion. They'll take years to recover - the CIA estimates that they wont be at their pre war economy until 1956 at the latest! People know Communism has failed - fifty million Russians lie dead at the hands of the Nazis!! How am I going to sell another military entanglement in Asia to Congress and to the American people when we have our hands full in Europe??? We're cash strapped as it is with the Marshall Plan and our occupation of Germany. Now if you'll excuse me, I have some work to be getting on with. Rest assured we'll keep an eye on Moscow. "

Kennan angrily left the Oval Office. How could the President not see that the Communists were hell bent on conquering the world? They may not have the strength now, but Stalin will bide his time to start communist uprisings all over the world. No, this will not do. It must not happen. He had to find likeminded people in the American government....wasn't there that prominent anti Communist, pro Freedom activist, Joseph McCarthy? Ah yes, he should be able to convince Congress!

[NOTE: Kennan recently said that his report was misunderstood. He wanted a political containment, not a military one.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/gergen/kennan.html]

McCarthyism would not kick off just yet........
 
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