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unmerged(52674)

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Jan 9, 2006
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Well, this is my second project and it will be much more successful that the first one, I'm sure...
NOTE: I tried to be as politcorrect as it was possible (it was not easy, though). I also tried to be maximally realistic and serious, but who knows how it will be actually?

The mod don't contain any forbidden material such as... oh well, you know.
And I also want to say why I decided to make this campaign. I know that this forum is not correct place for what I'm going to tell - I ever can be banned from here forever, but I hope for mercy and understanding. So, by making this mod I wanted to show very serious modern problem - the Cold War is not over. Yes, USSR dissolved and USA won first round, and now they are trying to end with Russia. Actually, in 90's Russia was too weak after the shock, and the West did nothing - it hoped Russia would dissolve in dozens small principalities without any help. But for last several years situation changes to better and the West began to worry about resurrection of
Great Russia. And since that Western powers use old and indeed the deadliest way - they accuse Russia and Russian government in OWN [Western] sins. Of course, not only in it, but anyway, when I specially visit webpage of any major Western media company or newspaper and read about moving to faschism, or about imperialistic ambitions of Moscow, or about Russia as The Core of The Global Evil, I get terrified. If somebody hear me, I tell you: it's the purest LIE. The real situation is very different from the Western version. Yes, we are trying to re-establish our power, but our country wants to live in harmonical and multi-polar world. This mod is the
result of analysis of further progress of the world in case of remaining existing geopolitical balance - and it is the warning too. I ask moderators again - do not ban me, please... I'm sorry, I will not speak on such themes in future.

The story begins at 01.01.2012. At this moment, situation in the world is rather complicated. European Union (tag - U12) transformed in loose federation of states, while Russia finally united with Byelorussia and Kazakhstan. Abkhazia and South Ossetia also joined Russia when Russian-Georgian relations decreased to absolute zero and dramatical crisis occured. In the result of civil conflict in Ukraine, its Eastern (pro-Russian) part seceded and was incorporated by Moscow, while remaining territories keep close contacts with the West. Role of the USA is weakened by inner and outer factors. When Tehran was staying very close from creation of A-bomb (or at least the West thought so), USA and Israel declared war on Iran (actual theme!?). But aerial strikes couldn't bring any serious harm to Iranian infrastructure, while a possibility of ground operation against the country, which army is 8th largest in the world, was too risky for USA. In answer Iran provoked shiites' and kurds' rebellions in Iraq, legalized (temporarily!) some
famous terroristic organizations at its territory and gave carte-blanche (and armed support) to Palestinian radicals to destroying the state of Israel. Meantime American society finally disappointed with their "imperialistic" government and after long months of political batallies and financial crisis territorial unity of the country appeared under the question.
...Israel got less luck, though...
So, when American influence temporarily decreased, terroristic organizations supported by Iran and remained without enemy in the region, organized coups in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE, Qatar and Bahrain (especially notable on the HoI2 map :)). Of course, Iran didn't asked them to do this, but new era and new possibilities resurrected the idea of Islamic Caliphate (tag - U14). Seizing power in Arabia, fundamentalists are ready to move further and unite firstly all Arabian countries, then all Islamic ones, and after that - the entire world. Of course, in the light of these events nobody noticed neither regional integration of African countries (Making every modern African country, its techteams, leaders and other attributes would be TOO complicated), nor creation of Pacific Union where Australia and New Zealand played main roles.

But there' s one little detail: it is not ready yet. I still work on leaders, ministers and techteams - it's not so easy to find suitable ones. I think 300-350 events would be nice, but later I can add more. There are, for example: Olympic Games of 2012/2016/etc, several variants of WWIII and WWIV, critical changes of geopolitical poles, plenty of cataclysms (every year it's more and more of them - so I decided to make accent at this), Nuclear Winter and, of course, The Apocalypsis (also several variants).
Oh, yes, I forgot to say that it ends in 2025 or 2030.
I hope I'll finish before the release of Doomsday. From the other view, though, on the Doomsday platform it must have more possibilities... This project must be grinded up to shine. ;-)
 
wasn't it that russia belarus and ukraine made a treaty for more and closer intergration and a possible re-creation of the SU
and then slowly every former ssr joined the treaty except the baltic states

otherwise yay its not clichè :D:D:D:D
 
anti-commi said:
wasn't it that russia belarus and ukraine made a treaty for more and closer intergration and a possible re-creation of the SU
and then slowly every former ssr joined the treaty except the baltic states

otherwise yay its not clichè :D:D:D:D

No, no more any USSR in nearest future :) . In fact, Russia signed the integration treaty only with Belarus, but if unification will end succesfully, Kazakhstan could decide to join too. Other possible candidates are Armenia, Kyrgizia, Tajikistan, maybe Azerbaijan and Uzbekistan. Eastern Ukraine also maintains close relation with Russia, since major population there is Russian-speaking. I have vaste number of events on this theme. If someone can help me with leaders and ministers, the work will be finished earlier than I'm planning.
 
And I also want to note that, although there will be some new techteams, there won't be any modern and post-modern technologies and types of combat technics (a pity, I know). Instead of this, reflecting of the new techs will be executed through events: for example, USA will meet possibility to add genetic-modified combat rats in the army (attack and some other parameters of marines will increase as well as consumption of supplies), or Russia will re-start production of screenplanes (increased speed, attack( :D ) and supply consumption of transports), or Ukrainian dolphins-saboteurs... However, new trees of technologies are what I can do later - as well as some new technic types.
 
I would be very grateful if somebody could help me with flags (not shields!) of:
-European Union;
-Micronesia;
-Papua New Guinea;
-Greenland;
-Alaska.
And new, modern-theme skins could be also included. I already made it for Russia, Caliphate, USA and EU.
 
Yes, of course.
Here are the titles of the first 50 events - note that there's no any order and, for example, event #143 is following event #45 and so on. The WWIII begins not only between Russia and USA, but it also happens when USA and China, Russia and China, EU and Russia enter conflict. Many other countries then decide which side they would take.
1 - Fate of the USA USA
2 - The end of the United States CSA
3 - Second US Civil War - Assistance of Quebec Quebec
4 - Quebec offers assistance CSA
5 - Second US Civil War - Assistance of Cuba Cuba
6 - Cuba offers assistance CSA
7 - The world without USA Russia
8 - The world without USA Caliphate
9 - The world without USA Communist China
10 - Caliphate is threatening Iran Iran
11 - Second Civil War is finished USA
12 - Sino-Mongolian war Mongolia
13 - Sino-Mongolian war - Assistance to Mongolia Russia
14 - Sino-Mongolian war - Suppport from Russia Mongolia
15 - Sino-Mongolian war - Russia offers incorporation Mongolia
16 - Mongolia becomes part of Russia Russia
17 - Pressure on Kurdistan Iran
18 - Pan-Iranian ambitions of Tehran Kurdistan
19 - Pressure on Kurdistan - Kurds had accepted our offer! Iran
20 - Unification with Azerbaijan Turkey
21 - Ankara offers unification Azerbaijan
22 - Unification with Azerbaijan happened Turkey
23 - Creation of Turkic buffer zone Iran
24 - Organizing revolt in Afghanistan Caliphate
25 - Caliphate-supported popular revolt Afghanistan
26 - Afghanian government surrenders Caliphate
27 - Third World War - Russia vs USA Russia
28 - Third World War - USA vs Russia USA
29 - Third World War - position of Bruxelles European Union
30 - Third World War - position of Beijing Communist China
31 - Third World War - position of Tehran Iran
32 - Iranian Assembly Iran
33 - Proposals for Iranian Assembly Afghanistan
34 - Afghanistan joins Iranian Assembly Iran
35 - Proposals for Iranian Assembly Pakistan
36 - Pakistan joins Iranian Assembly Iran
37 - Proposals for Iranian Assembly Tajikistan
38 - Tajikistan joins Iranian Assembly Iran
39 - Demanding Eastern Pakistan India
40 - India demands Eastern Pakistan Iran
41 - Iran refuses Indian demands India
42 - Preparing the surprise in Europe Caliphate
43 - Muslim rebellions in Europe European Union
44 - Victory of democracy in China Communist China
45 - Peaceful unification of China Republican China
46 - US. Presidential Election of 2012 USA
47 - Cancelling of the XXX Summer Olympic Games European Union
48 - Sino-Indian conflict - capitulation of China Communist China
49 - Sino-Indian conflict - China capitulated! India
50 - India gained Tibet Communist China
And the map - I'll post it very soon. It will be all in one picture.
 
And here's the map. It looks strange? Yes, because I took it from my own game project (Millenium: World at the Crossroad).
hoi2012map2vl.jpg
 
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Well, here are a little more events. But other ones will remain surprise. I suppose I can finish the work at the end of this month or maybe at the beginning of April, although I must note there still will be some lacking ministers and leaders. And later I'll create version for Doomsday :cool: ...
51 - Sino-Indian conflict - capitulation of India -India
52 - Sino-Indian conflict - India capitulated! -Communist China
53 - China gained Himalayas and Eastern India -India
54 - Hurricane Sanchez -Mexico
55 - Earthquake in Northeastern Iran -Iran
56 - High water in Southern Russia -Russia
57 - Combat dolphins project -Ukraine
58 - Re-creation of battle screenplanes -Russia
59 - Joining European Union -Montenegro
60 - Montenegro joins European Union -European Union
61 - Joining European Union -Bosnia
62 - Bosnia joins European Union -European Union
63 - Joining European Union -Serbia
64 - Serbia joins European Union -European Union
65 - Joining European Union -Albania
66 - Albania joins European Union -European Union
67 - Skirmish in northern Congo -Congo
68 - Congo blames us in supporting rebels -Central Africa
69 - Central Africa declares its innocence -Congo
70 - Development of petroleum deposits in Yakutia -Russia
71 - Chinese occupation of Taiwan -USA
72 - USA help us to resist agression of Beijing -Republican China
73 - USA supports Taiwanese rebels -Communist China
74 - Expedition to Mars - preparations -USA
75 - Expedition to Mars - preparations -Russia
 
And please, don't think that it is agressive and anti-American product, as you might think looking at the events names. It isn't so. Russia and EU have ever more various disastrous situations. In fact, USA has rather strong positions in the game - and there's more possibilities for USA and its allies to win world wars... Although the strongest position has the Peoples' Republic of China, albeit I didn't intend to make this specially. That's strange... Maybe the Chinese within my computer gained consciousness?.. : :eek: :)
 
SVS said:
No, no more any USSR in nearest future :) . In fact, Russia signed the integration treaty only with Belarus, but if unification will end succesfully, Kazakhstan could decide to join too. Other possible candidates are Armenia, Kyrgizia, Tajikistan, maybe Azerbaijan and Uzbekistan. Eastern Ukraine also maintains close relation with Russia, since major population there is Russian-speaking. I have vaste number of events on this theme. If someone can help me with leaders and ministers, the work will be finished earlier than I'm planning.

Kazakhstan has officially stated that their current policy is not to favour one power in front of the other. Although they are part of several treaties within old Soviet Republics, they are also part of the Coalition of the Willing, a half-trustworthy ally of the US, while also a good friend of China, through the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (of which Russia is also part).
The peoples of Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Azerbaijan and Uzbekistan are moslem, so I don't see them unifying in the first run. Especially not the former three. Uzbekistan perhaps...they love Russians...
I'll stop ranting and let you make your cool campaign now :D

PS: Norway wouldn't be part of the EU. Even if we did vote nowadays, we would vote no, and there wouldn't be another vote for decades (our last was in 1994). So, just keep'em out of the EU. You can keep them as a puppet of the EU though, as we do pretty much what they want.
 
Your idea sounds extremely interesting.But i would suggest you stick to creating events right now,since its only a month to Doomsday(the release of it,that is ;) ).If you spend your time with the game mechanism, you'll just have to redo everything when the new engine is presented, whereas events will be (i hope) easier to adjust.
 
Maggern said:
Kazakhstan has officially stated that their current policy is not to favour one power in front of the other. Although they are part of several treaties within old Soviet Republics, they are also part of the Coalition of the Willing, a half-trustworthy ally of the US, while also a good friend of China, through the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (of which Russia is also part).
The peoples of Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Azerbaijan and Uzbekistan are moslem, so I don't see them unifying in the first run. Especially not the former three. Uzbekistan perhaps...they love Russians...
I'll stop ranting and let you make your cool campaign now :D

PS: Norway wouldn't be part of the EU. Even if we did vote nowadays, we would vote no, and there wouldn't be another vote for decades (our last was in 1994). So, just keep'em out of the EU. You can keep them as a puppet of the EU though, as we do pretty much what they want.
OK, I understood it and made appropriate changes. Thanks. But when the event "European federalism under the threat" happens and Scandinavian countries decide to form their own federation based on the Nordic Council, has Norway high chances to join united Scandinavia? Anyway, with Norway independent I can add some rather interesting events... Thanks again for the idea.
But Kazakhstan will remain Russian. Who knows how will be the world looking in real 2012? Some fantasy wouldn't do much harm (by the way, my city is situated near Kazakh border). And there are events in which Kazakhstan can secede and fight on American/Chinese/European/Caliphatean side against Russia.
 
remember when i said this

anti-commi said:
wasn't it that russia belarus and ukraine made a treaty for more and closer intergration and a possible re-creation of the SU
and then slowly every former ssr joined the treaty except the baltic states

otherwise yay its not clichè :D:D:D:D

i meant the C.I.S., The Commonwealth of Independant States

is this going to have an effect on the scenerio, not what i said the CIS
 
anti-commi said:
remember when i said this



i meant the C.I.S., The Commonwealth of Independant States

is this going to have an effect on the scenerio, not what i said the CIS
Definitely ;)
 
sean john said:
Why dont u unify all the Turks under 1 flag?u may lead a event from Turkey,Azerbaijan,Turkmenistan,Kazahkistan,Ozbekistan,Tacikistan and East Turkistan form China..
Oh yes, I have such events. Although Tajikistan is Iranic, not Turkic. In the game Turkey can really reclaim step-by-step all Turkic lands - ever Russian Tatarstan, Bashkiria, etc, as well as Cuban and Crimea, if Ankara would decide to join USA in the war againt Russia (by the way, the plan of giving Southern Russia to Turkey is really existing in official American strategical plans - sorry that I'm saying this here).
And I must note that I finished the work by 75%-80%