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Thelamon

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Playing Germany in the 1939 scenario I can clearly see my doom (in form of the red army) coming long before "barbarossa" ever happened. :(

This is due to the Russian having all the time to prepare and rearange whereas the German has to hunt across the map trying to achieve at least a good size of the historic gains in order to gain enough resources and IC to stand a chance vs. Russia.

Problems:
1. Gamespeed
Germany needs it slow and some Pause time esp. in the beginning - Russia wants it fast due to boredom - result Germany stressed (making research/diplo/resource mistakes) missing major developments.
Once it is time for France Russia sits across its border with Finnland, Baltics and Afghanistan "red" (End 1939!)

2. Balance prob
Knowing, that the only "real" threat comes from the human player makes life easy for the Russian and very hard for the German. (AI is a Prob as well - Finnland goes down to easy without competent leadership)

3. Backstab
Knowing the aproximate course Germany needs to take, the Russian (at least in our "missbalanced" game) has the option to attack as soon as Germany takes on the West

What are your experiences?
- do you modify the scenario (and on what terms) to create a "fair" competition
- what house rules do you use in a two player scenario?


As it stands I know I will lose against the Russian right from the start. (micromanaging the axis - if they even join - nations is another pain...)
 
Frankly I dont see a pb playing Germany against Russia one on one....whether 36 or 39 ....

The German can quickly get production far above that of SU... The incompetent US and UK AI dont present a threat to Germany. France can be overrun quickly and Germany can focus on Russia if they want.. Or leave sufficient forces and build up strenghth by grabbing UK colonies.....

I dont see that there is a marked advantage to SU and I am willing to play either side in that competition one on one ....

The only pb is the Polish bug-exploit in 36 (if SU declares war on Poland while its democratic, France WE sky rockets and France declares war on ...... Germany). But that is easy to fix by prohibiting SU to declare war on a democratic poland before the allies are at war..

ICQ number 223270233
 
Originally posted by Tomar
Frankly I dont see a pb playing Germany against Russia one on one....whether 36 or 39 ....

The German can quickly get production far above that of SU... The incompetent US and UK AI dont present a threat to Germany. France can be overrun quickly and Germany can focus on Russia if they want.. Or leave sufficient forces and build up strenghth by grabbing UK colonies.....

I dont see that there is a marked advantage to SU and I am willing to play either side in that competition one on one ....

The only pb is the Polish bug-exploit in 36 (if SU declares war on Poland while its democratic, France WE sky rockets and France declares war on ...... Germany). But that is easy to fix by prohibiting SU to declare war on a democratic poland before the allies are at war..

ICQ number 223270233

Completely agreed. In 1 vs 1 the SU vs Germany is pretty balanced. SU has manpower, Germany has the IC. I think undeed that if a country has the upper hand in the 1 vs 1, this is Germany.

Even in MP with 6 players, the barbarosa is usually quite balanced and historical (germany makes fast advanca at first, then it stops/slower when it's near stalingrad and moscow) untill there's the DDay (which is always too early if compared with history). But this is due to the issues of US mainly.
 
Hm
I have yet to be convinced...
Those reds on my eastern front scare me shitless while I'm trying to crush France (and its only Jan 1940!)
:rolleyes: ;)
well I guess being wary of the reds comes with being born in West-Berlin (surrounded by the commies).
... old habits die hard :D
 
Originally posted by Thelamon
Hm
I have yet to be convinced...
Those reds on my eastern front scare me shitless while I'm trying to crush France (and its only Jan 1940!)
:rolleyes: ;)
well I guess being wary of the reds comes with being born in West-Berlin (surrounded by the commies).
... old habits die hard :D


LOL :D

I am just about to finish a 1vs1 game. I am SU, the enemy is Germany.

After 2 years of war, he finally was able to encircle moscow (war not lost yet). But it was an hard battle and i think Germany will win at the end.

Obviously, Germany must play smart: head for massive air and tanks to counterbalance MP of SU, attack france only when strong.
SU alone, with allies AI, has an hard time to resist Germany. It can be done, but it's hard.