A little bit different take on Italy

[Porsenna]

IMO, It'd be nice to divide Italy up a little more in terms of regional cultures - specifically, carve up "Lombard" into Lombard, Tuscan, Venetian, and perhaps Ligurian.

Italy should have some sub-culture based hiccups for anyone pursuing unification (until your successfully able to unify), but it'd also be nice for cultural rebels to reflect their actual city state better if they are successful - no more "Milan" in Brescia, or Mantua, or who knows where , while Lombardy is still owned by someone else, or Aquillia popping up in Ferrara.

And of course given that its Tuscan which serves as the base for standard Italian, it would be nice to reflect it in the game, too.

- A similar course of action might be prudent in Germany (specifically making Swiss distinct from Rhinelander, among others) - these are areas that should desire to break off into their independent states until/unless they are unified with a pan-culture group government, and it'd be nice to see sub-cultures used more to reflect that, and make any successful rebel break away state more accurate to its location.

And of course, neither Italy or Germany should be easy to conquer (and hold) from within, or without.

 

[WeissRaben]

You know what? In the time period I would see Italy unified a bit more like in V2 - by league and sphere of influence, more than by military control. Now, I don't know how coalitions will work, but the Italian states should be VERY prone to ally against someone trying to butt in - and maybe some coalition could develop into a full-blown unification. No, I don't expect anything similar to be in the base game, but it could be modded.

 

[Porsenna]

It would be pretty neat to have a "form Italy" option based off having the other needed states as vassals and then unification annexes them, rather then the old conquer and hold until they are core territory method.

 

[MaybeNever]

It would be pretty neat to have a "form Italy" option based off having the other needed states as vassals and then unification annexes them, rather then the old conquer and hold until they are core territory method.

You could borrow from the HRE unification mechanic where each vassal gets to vote, more or less, about unification, so that unifying could go great or it could result in a huge rebellion of your vassals and an epic empire-crushing war.

 

[Tornadoli]

Why don't we have a separate culture for each province in the game?

 

[Manfred Cornburg]

Why don't we have a separate culture for each province in the game?

I'd really like it if [HOME REGION] was represented better, since it's obvious historical importance isn't reflected well enough.

Joking aside, I think measures to reduce the amount of times Italy (or other similar non-historical formations and such) actually form.
This would also make it a bigger achievement when you manage to directly or indirectly make something happen. I'm currently on my way to three games in a row in EU3 where Vijajonobolopalopalooza forms Hindustan


These things could be avoided by making stronger cultural differences from area to area, making it harder for a conquering nation to keep the land afterwards.
This would also make for a more interesting late-game

 

[Marco Dandolo]

I think there will be a mod, which has the goal to reflect the status of the italian penisular better in this time, when EU IV will come out. I'm very sure about that.

 

[justin6477]

I'd really like it if [HOME REGION] was represented better, since it's obvious historical importance isn't reflected well enough.

Joking aside, I think measures to reduce the amount of times Italy (or other similar non-historical formations and such) actually form.
This would also make it a bigger achievement when you manage to directly or indirectly make something happen. I'm currently on my way to three games in a row in EU3 where Vijajonobolopalopalooza forms Hindustan

These things could be avoided by making stronger cultural differences from area to area, making it harder for a conquering nation to keep the land afterwards.

I like pretty much all of this. My suggestion would be dynamic CBs. Nationalism for example could be available from day 1. However, until the Napoleonic era where romantic nationalism starts to take hold, it shouldn't be a terribly good CB. Effectively it would serve as a better alternative to having no CB at all. This would allow nations in formation areas to grow more naturally, within their cultural borders. This of course could be balanced with a release nation(s) style CB where coalitions would come together to partition major powers (a la Austria-Hungary post WW1).

As for cultural differences, I think macro-cultures would be a lovely way to represent this. Spaniards should be less offended by French rule than Moorish rule (nevermind the religious aspect, just focusing on language and culture here), and similarly the Scandinavians should be less bothered by German occupation than say Russian. The Pan-(insert greater ethnicity here) movements did begin during Victoria 2's timespan, but that doesn't mean that these culturally and linguistically similar peoples wouldn't coexist more easily than less related cultures.