A new Name for Aberration II

[ForzaA]

how about you both just post a "mission statement" as to what you feel "your" mod should be? The above posts don't seem to indicate a fundamental difference of opinion (yet, anyway) rather more of a different approach.

And besides, formulating your goals never hurts

 

[ForzaA]

It has all been up in threads for some time.


Vision

Design Principles

Event Scripting


Matty

I know, but well.. they seem to fit the original ABE more than (some) of the new events.. Or I'm reading it wrong, ofcourse.

Or, in other words, some people currently working on the project, or who's work is currently in, seem to be writing more from feeling, and not so much from THAT mission statement.

 

[ForzaA]

How so?

"resurrection" of England, France.

Admittedly partly my fault: Cordoba taking most/all of Iberia AND becoming a colonial power. reeks somewhat of Spain, imo.

Byzantium has enough cores and small neighbours to, at least, rival AI OE in vanilla.

Ukraine starts from a different position than Muscowy in Vanilla, but their "tales" are imo fairly similar.

TO, atleast early on, is quite similar to the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth; largest power in the area, able to kick the *** out of almost anyone (from my observations, anyway).

Bavaria often acts as the "new BWB"..

and so on. "no big blobs" sounds nice in principle, but it's not really working well *yet*, due, in part, to the events some countries get.

 

[ForzaA]

You know its funny, MattyG has been giving up his free time for the past 6 months working on this mod, putting in new material, enriching the game, listening to suggestions from players (Hey, he even tolerates MY bickering) and continues improving the mod and for what?nothing but the enjoyment of players.Rather than lynching at him do this : If you dont like Abberation II output ; stick to Abberation I and improve whatever u think is nessicary whilst leaving out whatever you dont agree with.

Abberation II has evolved into something different.Regardless of how "vanilla" some nations seem!Stop being ridiculous!

I never said I didn't LIKE it, I'm just pointing out where I *feel* how the game plays out and the mission statement are not quite going in the same direction.

Byzantium IS LIKE OE because OE imitated Byzantium, heck Sultan Mehmet II wanted to rejuvinate the Roman Empire through his own state!

As for Cordoba looking like Spain - heh- the Ummayeds controlled most of Iberia anyway, and it would have made sense for the Muslims to simply eredicate the annoying Christian states once and for all "learning from the reconquesta".

I'm not disputing the historical reasons, and I know it would take a *lot* of effort to keep it plausible, yet make those countries feel distinctly different.

4. No Great Powers, No Blobs

Accordingly, there are no great powers in Aberration II (Spain, England etc) and we are structuring the game such that massive countries do not readily form up as they do in vanilla and other mods.

Spain and OE are two countries I readily link with the term "great powers", and thus my *hope* is somewhat that these "links" are cut as much as possible.

Eire, to take another example of a country that has a vanilla "counterpart" in Portugal, has a distinctly different feel than Portugal -- it's "policy" may be the same, but the different PLACE alone makes for a totally different country, imo.


You'll basically always have 4 sorts of countries: big blobs, traders, "mediums" and minors.

What I am pointing out is where I feel the "old" and the "new" blobls, traders, mediums and minors are too close. And in some cases, bottlenecks (like the siberian corridor) almost *force* similarity, that doesn't mean trying to avoid similarities is bad.

 

[ForzaA]

What I'm worried about, mostly , is that these two projects are so close together (even if they have some differences) that you will likely be "fishing in the same pond", and let's face it, that pond isn't very big.

 

[ForzaA]

there are plenty of mods that don't get their own subforum, so I wouldn't count on that happening. (Though you might ask Archduke or the AGCEEP what the going rate is, in goats or beer)