A WAD, WTF Moment

[SonofWinter]

Playing Carthage, Rome is down to 2 provinces. My new High General was elected. A Roman/Carthiginian Marcus Valerio Flatus or some such. Now I've had Armenians become Kings of the Selucids and didn't speak up and I know this is WAD, but WTF?

I'd post a screenshot, but I don't know how with Vista or maybe just with EU: Rome. And I'm willing to send the save file, but I don't know where its located in Vista.

 

[Encarta98]

One of the F buttons (I think F11, I just hit them until it says 'take screenshot'!) will take a screenshot and put it in a "screenshots" folder in the Rome game directory - can't see any reason this would be different in Vista, but I have XP (thankfully, from what people have been saying!).

About the WAD, WTF? moment you describe (good name for it btw) - it does seem odd, but not completely impossible in all of the thousands of alternative histories we can conceive! After all, who would know the enemy better than a Roman turncoat?

This sort of thing doesn't seem to happen so often that it needs to be fixed, IMO. Maybe you could make some cool event chains for it, but I don't know if it would be worth the effort!

 

[Chengar Qordath]

One of the F buttons (I think F11, I just hit them until it says 'take screenshot'!) will take a screenshot and put it in a "screenshots" folder in the Rome game directory - can't see any reason this would be different in Vista, but I have XP (thankfully, from what people have been saying!).

About the WAD, WTF? moment you describe (good name for it btw) - it does seem odd, but not completely impossible in all of the thousands of alternative histories we can conceive! After all, who would know the enemy better than a Roman turncoat?

This sort of thing doesn't seem to happen so often that it needs to be fixed, IMO. Maybe you could make some cool event chains for it, but I don't know if it would be worth the effort!

I've run into something similar with my own game; Carthaginian families have been dominating Roman politics ever since I finished up the Punic wars.

 

[SonofWinter]

One of the F buttons (I think F11, I just hit them until it says 'take screenshot'!) will take a screenshot and put it in a "screenshots" folder in the Rome game directory - can't see any reason this would be different in Vista, but I have XP (thankfully, from what people have been saying!).

About the WAD, WTF? moment you describe (good name for it btw) - it does seem odd, but not completely impossible in all of the thousands of alternative histories we can conceive! After all, who would know the enemy better than a Roman turncoat?

This sort of thing doesn't seem to happen so often that it needs to be fixed, IMO. Maybe you could make some cool event chains for it, but I don't know if it would be worth the effort!

Honestly, its not that unusual in the games, I've played. And this guy wasn't a turncoat, it was just some random general I caputred in some war.

I'd like to get rid of them, without incurring any BBs or CBs, not make them a part of my nation or my noble class. We need some sort of a PURGE button, to get rid of all non- coreligionists and non- coculturalists. And I certainly can't imagine anyone in Rome electing a Carthaginian, 3 years after the 2nd Punic War. (This occurred 4-5 years after my 2nd war against Rome, where they are left with only 2 provinces. This seems like a bad WAD to me, I don't see the ruling elite being that accomodating in the ancient world. Hell, we're not that accomodating today and those guys were barbarians, Romans, Carthaginians, the whole lot of them.

 

[Encarta98]

Fair enough - guess I've been lucky then!

If family prestige influences election mechanics, maybe the fact that family prestige is carried over between nations and cultures has something to do with it. From what you've said it sounds like it needs a tweak of some sort.

 

[unmerged(51416)]

Exactly the same thing happened to me, playing Carthage.

FIX PROPOSAL: instead of making each family diffrent, just make family prestige worth, say, 10% if character has diffrent culture &/or religion. As pointed out in Mechanics behind elections thread, it would still be useful to know what makes elections outcomes.