Aberration LAN

[TheArchduke]

6 players:

Ukraine (me), TO, Sicily, Granada, Burgundy and Byzantium.

And it was fun, and we found many issues.

Nik:

That cruel manu event for the GH happens for every power atm! We had arts academies everywhere.

 

[Nikolai II]

Nik:

That cruel manu event for the GH happens for every power atm! We had arts academies everywhere.

Whooopppss. o

Fixed file in thread - http://www.europa-universalis.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2929737#post2929737

 

[TheArchduke]

Whooopppss. o

Fixed file in thread - http://www.europa-universalis.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2929737#post2929737

Yeah, anyway apart from that a great experience, playing the Ukraine is no cakewalk.

 

[Nikolai II]

Yeah, anyway apart from that a great experience, playing the Ukraine is no cakewalk.

It looks rather hard yeah, crammed in between GH, HUN and LAT with a bunch of small countries (AI = obscenely high armies) as neighbors, and plenty of BB to go around..

Maybe CRG should get the option to unite with Ukraine when Kiev is gone?
Or is the 'no cakewalk' problem somewhere else? (Earlier?)

 

[TheArchduke]

Crg?

 

[Nikolai II]

Crg?

CheRniGov (a bit of desperation I guess, since CHErokee )

 

[unmerged(27921)]

Granadas comment on the GH event - quite fun as such, representing how industrial development can take place also without you wishing it, but it is far too frequent. at our actual rate of expansion, Germany and France will be proud possessors of about 7 or 8 luxury manus at the least by the time they are united, and that is not fun when all of them are placed in iron provinces

 

[TheArchduke]

I will prolly drop ruthenian culture from the start for the GH, her conversion efforts are insane atm.

 

[Nikolai II]

I will prolly drop ruthenian culture from the start for the GH, her conversion efforts are insane atm.

Fair enough - I'll update the relevant event..

 

[Medicine Man]

Yeah, anyway apart from that a great experience, playing the Ukraine is no cakewalk.

Perhaps we could shift a 1-2 more provinces from the Golden Horde over to the Cossacks. To justify it, we could make the Ukraine start out as a vassal of STE with low centralization (prolly low already).

Or perhaps a Cherginov inheritance or vassalization event would be a good thing... like Nikolai suggested.

 

[Nikolai II]

Perhaps we could shift a 1-2 more provinces from the Golden Horde over to the Cossacks.

Or we could change the startgame default-flag from UKR to STE

 

[Medicine Man]

Or we could change the startgame default-flag from UKR to STE

Naw. I'd rather the Ukraine eventually pummel the Golden Horde mercilessly, although it is nice that they are both playable; it adds lots of replay value. Or were you being facetious, Nikolai?

 

[Nikolai II]

I'll wait until I get a clarification upon 'no cakewalk', if that means 'hard' or 'too hard' - Ukraine is rather small though, 463 would be a good province to move over to UKR, no strings attached.

 

[TheArchduke]

Well... It was doable.

Till the Golden horde decided that the Kaliph should become her ally

 

[Nikolai II]

There you go then

Hm - maybe move 463 to Ukraine (giving them a fourth province to start with) and adding possible revolters in 464+465 (Crimean Khanate) and 471+468 (displaced Astrakhanate) that gets to run free?

The 'revolter' option means more BB for Ukraine as well though..

 

[TheArchduke]

Removing the Crimea would go a long way imo...

 

[Medicine Man]

A quick question: The Kaliphate has appropriately poor relations with all of the mongol khanates?

 

[TheArchduke]

Don´t think so.

 

[Medicine Man]

Would it make sense for us to lower relations between the mongol Khanates and the rest of the muslim world? Or at least between the Kaliphate and the Golden Horde?

Although they had became muslim, they were invaders... or was it only Tamerlane's mongols who were persona non-grata at this point?

I'm just tossing out ideas here.

 

[Nikolai II]

Although they had became muslim, they were invaders... or was it only Tamerlane's mongols who were persona non-grata at this point?

Play balance reasons should be enough - letting the Caliphate begin with -100 relations with select khanates should make them seek early alliances in other places..