I had the idea for a game where my entire goal was to acquire all the available unique Valyrian swords, and I was wondering if some of the people more experienced with this mod could perhaps give me some guidance here on strategy. Thanks.
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Play as the ironborn and just raid everyone with the sword but itd be a good idea to have good martial and dueling skills.
Alrighty. Can this trigger a theft event or? I've been looking through the mod files, but not seeing what I'm looking for. Thanks.
If you as Ironborn personally (i.e. are leading the center flank of the army) raid (Ironborn Invasion wars act like raids for this purpose) and sack a settlement where a holder of a VS sword is located, then you will steal their sword. It's pretty straightforward (I remember at least one Greyjoy game where I was wielding like 8 unique swords at once (including the Celtigar axe)).
Just note that it doesn't actually boost your sword-fighting ability after the first one, and that while you are leading, you run the risk of random fights with local, randomly-generated swordsmen, so you'll want to make sure your character is good in a swordfight.
Edit: note that it's the physical location of the target that matters, so e.g. councillors may be in their liege's capital instead of their own (in which case you have to sack the liege's capital), or may be leading an army (in which case you're out of luck).
I can tell you it's very very hard without doing it the Iron Born route.
I played a game as the Umbers (beginning the start of the Greatjon's reign, and marrying the Smalljon to Dacey Mormont). And By heavy intermarrying with both the Starks and Mormonts ended up getting their swords in to my family bloodline. Throughout the 300 or so years I played I also got myself another 2 swords from questing.
So the only feasible way of going about what you want, without taking a millennia or two, then it seems like what you have to do is marry members of your bloodline to members of said sword-bearing bloodline, and wait for them to have some children before strategically annihilating the family with assassinations, so that it passes to the heir that's in your own bloodline. Getting them all on one character is just ridiculously unfeasible though.
Or mod personal interaction/decision to allow you to take swords from those you've imprisoned, but that requires modding of course.
No, I actually think this probably needs added for the official mod. I mean, isn't that exactly what they did to Ned? Give it a prestige/piety cost and be done with it. If they want, they can get creative and add some reforging issues, but I don't even think that is necessary.
I dunno. Imprisoning/executing people to steal their swords seems like it'd be a bit too easy. Same with eggs.
It seems like there should be a plot that you can do to steal someone else's sword/egg. Maybe require you to have the Ambition to acquire a sword/egg.
It seems like there should be a plot that you can do to steal someone else's sword/egg. Maybe require you to have the Ambition to acquire a sword/egg.
I like TankRush's suggestion there, but you'd have to have that ambition and maybe some specific traits as well (greedy, cruel, ambitious etc), otherwise every lord would end up with their vassals'/enemies' weapons. The Tyrells/Gardners would be extremely prestigious, or treacherous depending on how you look at it 
I'm currently controlling the North as the Thenns, having taken it from the Starks. My current king's mother is a Stark, the last remaining Stark who therefore holds Ice. I am really, really hoping that I will end up with Ice when she dies, but I don't know if it works that way, or if it goes to the lord of the domain she's residing in.
I'm currently controlling the North as the Thenns, having taken it from the Starks. My current king's mother is a Stark, the last remaining Stark who therefore holds Ice. I am really, really hoping that I will end up with Ice when she dies, but I don't know if it works that way, or if it goes to the lord of the domain she's residing in.
Seconded. Although it should be amended to include anyone you have "Rival" status with.
A cool event would be if the owner of a valyrian steel sword is in debt, and someone in the realm has the appropriate ambition and some spare cash, that they either gamble/game for it or agree to purchase it.
Betting the sword VS money for the debt on a game of cyvasse, or straight up agreeing to sell it.
Maybe:
Option 1. Offer to sell (500 gold and lose sword)
Option 2. Offer to gamble (chance for 500 gold OR Chance for loss of sword and no gold)
Option 3. Nevermind. (No gold, keep sword.)
Or perhaps if you've loaned money to your liege previously and they own a sword they can give the sword as payment of the loan.
Betting the sword VS money for the debt on a game of cyvasse, or straight up agreeing to sell it.
Maybe:
Option 1. Offer to sell (500 gold and lose sword)
Option 2. Offer to gamble (chance for 500 gold OR Chance for loss of sword and no gold)
Option 3. Nevermind. (No gold, keep sword.)
Or perhaps if you've loaned money to your liege previously and they own a sword they can give the sword as payment of the loan.
I'm pretty sure that no House, even a bankrupt one would sell the family sword. I can't remember the exact words, but it is in the books.
I know the same passage, something about Tywin trying to acquire a V.Sword and offering large amounts of gold but even the most destitute of houses would not sell.
Well, they called Viserys the 'pauper king' for selling his mother's crown. So yeah, actually losing your family sword (and living to tell the tale) should probably provide a pretty hefty prestige penalty.
Which makes me think, since the canon swords are all associated with families, perhaps that makes it easier for them to get the family sword if it's not held by someone of their family. By always letting them have the plot, or something.
For gambling (and maybe selling), perhaps only if the owner is Arbitrary?
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There's already a cassus belli for that, don't know about a plot though.
I don't think the Tyrion POV that stated this is valid reference.
For starters, it also mentioned 200 valyrian steel swords in Westeros alone (and thousands in world), which - assuming somewhat equal distribution - would leave Westerlands with circa twenty valyrian swords families. I find it hard to believe in such numbers: hell!, with Tywin's abilities he would've surely find some justification to do 'Rains of Castamere' on one of them.
The distribution of swords certainly doesn't have to be equal. For example some Great Houses (Greyjoys come to mind) don't seem to have VS swords at all. Also, do you truly think Tywin would exterminate an entire House for a relatively minor matter like that?
