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I'm a bit confused as to how the game decides who gets a province when allied troops overwhelm a fortress. (either by siege or assault). One time I was sieging the province of Mantua with 12,000 troops, and Moldovia (my ally) sent in 16,000. Suddenly the siege becomes his (the icon in the siege window changes from mine to his). I send in another 8,000 troops, and the siege (icon) remains his. When the province falls, he gets it.
I tried re-loading, and did the opposite. He sent in 16,000 troops first, then I came in with 20,000. The siege remained his, and he once again got the province.
How does this work?
 
Alliance Leadership in Sieges

In a siege or assault, the highest ranking allied leader commands the force, & his nation gains control of the province upon successful conclusion of the operation. Number of units is not a factor. So either (1) send in a higher ranked leader to 'steal' the attack, or (2) suck it up & help your ally to win, or (3) just get the heck out of Dodge (which will probably save you some attrition). :)

Watch out if your ally has his monarch in the battle - they can't be outranked. And Saxony's king seems to have precedence over most other monarchs - he has stolen sieges from me as both Brandenburg & Austria when my own monarchs were present. I don't know how the game breaks ties in rank, but the shield of the alliance leader for the siege is displayed in the siege box, so you can tell when you're outranked.

What really sucks is when a siege is just about to be completed successfully, & an alliance army with a higher-ranked leader shows up moments before the siege is won, stealing the province for your ally. Austria did this to me in Novgorod in a war against Russia when I was playing Poland. Irked me no end, after the attrition I took from the Russian winter, especially since I had my monarch there too - apparently the Austrian monarch outranked my Polish one. :(

Hoohy hoo! My 25th post - no longer a recruit! :)
 
Of course it works in reverse too...

As Russia, I am allied with Austria and Hungary. During our threeway siege of Eastern Prussia, winter approached so I pulled my troops back to my province to avoid attrition. When spring came, my troops under a Major General (Glinski perhaps?) rejoined the nearly completed siege. Needless to say, a full annexation of Prussia quickly followed. :)

Christopher
 
Re: Alliance Leadership in Sieges

Originally posted by Misha
Number of units is not a factor.
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AFAIK, if the leaders have the same rank, ownership of the province is decided by the number of troops present when the siege ended. I could be wrong though...
 
Monarch in Battle?

This may be a stupid question, but how do you have your monarch lead an army? I have played two GCs with England and Russia and never once saw my monarch as an option to lead my armies..........
 
That's funny - both Russia and England have several monarchs appear as leaders according to the data files. Some of them are even good.
 
According to which data file ? There are plenty inaccurate ones coming with the game.

For England the leaders.eng counts, not anything else and in that file no monarchs get listed.
 
Originally posted by chris8b


I got both Vasilli and Gudunov as leaders when playing as Russia. (IGC 1.7c, EU1.08)

Christopher
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I know, but I was talking regular GC as the original question was in general. And no English monarch leaders were added in the IGC.
 
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