Another CKII won't start thread

[unmerged(506040)]

Looking through the last several days of posts I'm suffering the same problems as many other posters on this forum in the last week. Paradox, perhaps you have a bad patch out there?

I've tried reinstalling ck2 many times, uninstall and reinstalling steam, updating drivers, trying all the compatability modes possible in different combinations on the ck2.exe file, reinstalling directx, changing the font scaling, dpi settings, different video modes, running in 640x480, etc etc etc etc.

It starts up, loads a variety of things, gets to "Creating Textures", cycles to Loading Graphics, then promptly crashes with the what seems to be pretty standard crash message if the last week of posts give any indication.

Needless to say after purchasing the game and spending nearly 6 hours futzing with it I'm a little ticked and disappointed.

windows 7 error:
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: ck2.exe
Application Version: 1.0.0.0
Application Timestamp: 4fc37bfc
Fault Module Name: ck2.exe
Fault Module Version: 1.0.0.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 4fc37bfc
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 0026198d
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.28
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 0a9e
Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
Additional Information 3: 0a9e
Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789

Settings file:
gui=
{
language=l_english
has_set_language=yes
}
graphics=
{
size=
{
x=1024
y=768
}

refreshRate=60
fullScreen=yes
shadows=no
shadowSize=2048
multi_sampling=0
anisotropic_filtering=0
gamma=50.000000
}
sound_fx_volume=100.000000
music_volume=100.000000
scroll_speed=50.000000
camera_rotation_speed=50.000000
zoom_speed=50.000000
mouse_speed=50.000000
master_volume=100.000000
ambient_volume=50.000000
mapRenderingOptions=
{
draw_terrain=yes
draw_water=yes
draw_borders=yes
draw_trees=yes
draw_rivers=yes
draw_postfx=yes
draw_sky=yes
draw_bloom=no
draw_tooltips=yes
draw_hires_terrain=no
draw_citysprawl=yes
}
camera_speed=50.000000
camera_tilt=100.000000
centered_zoom_in=yes
lastplayer=""
lasthost=""
serveradress="diplomacy.valkyrienet.com"
autosave="YEARLY"
difficulty="NORMAL"
outliner=
{
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 }
outliner_open=no
windowmovetime=0.200000
disable_wikipedia_links=no
nudge_allowed=no
hints=yes

System log file:
[systemsettings.cpp:181]: System memory: 1024MB
[systemsettings.cpp:183]: CPU speed: 2830MHz
[systemsettings.cpp:190]: Number of processors: 4
[systemsettings.cpp:201]: CPU type: x86
[systemsettings.cpp:233]: OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 Build: 2600
[gfx_settings.cpp:51]: Graphic Adapters:
[gfx_settings.cpp:56]: 0: NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT
[gfx_settings.cpp:73]: Checking for multi-sampling support:
[gfx_settings.cpp:84]: 2 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:84]: 4 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:84]: 8 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:99]: Using Adapter [0]:
[gfx_settings.cpp:105]: Succeeded to create a device [D3DCREATE_HARDWARE_VERTEXPROCESSING].
[gfx_settings.cpp:147]: Graphics device: NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT
[gfx_settings.cpp:148]: Graphics driver: nvd3dum.dll
[gfx_settings.cpp:153]: Driver version: 142
[gfx_settings.cpp:170]:


Dumping all gfx info:
DeviceIdentifier: {D7B71E3E-4562-11CF-7D73-A0A21FC2C535}
VendorId: 4318
DeviceId: 1570
SubSysId: -2102587325
Revision: 161
DriverVersion.HighPart: 524305
DriverVersion.LowPart: 852110


[gfx_settings.cpp:220]: Instancing supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:238]: Video memory amount: 1342MB
[gfx_settings.cpp:241]: Support for T&L found.
[gfx_settings.cpp:244]: MaxSimultaneousTextures: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:245]: MaxVertexBlendMatrices: 4
[gfx_settings.cpp:246]: MaxVertexBlendMatrixIndex: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:248]: MaxSimultaneousTextures: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:249]: MaxTextureBlendStages: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:250]: Support for Anisotropic filtering found.
[gfx_settings.cpp:253]: Max Anisotropic filtering: 16
[gfx_settings.cpp:254]: Anisotropic filtering set to: 0
[gfx_settings.cpp:258]: Vertex Shader version: 3.0
[gfx_settings.cpp:263]: Pixel Shader version: 3.0
[main.cpp:442]: CK2 Version May 28 2012 : 15:14:45
[internationalizedtext.cpp:1244]: Create table
[internationalizedtext.cpp:1246]: Create text database
[graphicssettings.cpp:624]: Not using multisampling.
[graphics.cpp:163]: Creating device with: HARDWARE_VERTEXPROCESSING
Fullscreen=yes
RefreshRate=60
Resolution=1024x768
[graphics.cpp:204]: Done creating device.
[internationalizedtext.cpp:1244]: Create table
[internationalizedtext.cpp:1246]: Create text database

Error file:
[graphicssettings.cpp:63]: Resolution width to low. Setting it to 1024.
[graphicssettings.cpp:73]: Resolution height to low. Setting it to 768.
[sound.cpp:232]: Sound generic_click_04 not found.
[sound.cpp:232]: Sound generic_click_04 not found.
[sound.cpp:232]: Sound generic_click_04 not found.
[sound.cpp:232]: Sound generic_click_04 not found.
[texturehandler.cpp:169]: Couldn't find texture file: gfx//coats_of_arms//dynasties.tga.

(btw, you should update graphicsettings.cpp lines 63 and 73 to say "too low")

Graphics file:
[provincetemplate.cpp:250]: Province 0 has invalid origin
[eu3graphicalmap.cpp:1872]: Invalid port location for province 1, center at 136,215, port location at 126.000, 277.000

Game file:
[history.cpp:229]: Executing History from -1.1.1 to 2.1.1
[history.cpp:229]: Executing History from 2.1.1 to 1066.9.15

Checksum line from setup file:
[ck_application.cpp:782]: Checksum is CK2 v1.05g (GUHH) -1587670558


Dxdiag:
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate N 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.120330-1504)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: P5QL PRO
BIOS: BIOS Date: 11/28/08 17:25:18 Ver: 08.00.14
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Memory: 6144MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 6144MB RAM
Page File: 1533MB used, 10750MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: 144 DPI (150 percent)
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Enabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

------------
DxDiag Notes
------------
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

--------------------
DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

---------------
Display Devices
---------------
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 9600 GT
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0622&SUBSYS_82AD1043&REV_A1
Display Memory: 3307 MB
Dedicated Memory: 491 MB
Shared Memory: 2815 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (30Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: SONY TV
Monitor Id: SNY01F8
Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(i) (60.053Hz)
Output Type: DVI
Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver File Version: 8.17.0013.0142 (English)
Driver Version: 8.17.13.142
DDI Version: 10
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 5/15/2012 06:48:00, 18044224 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4562-11CF-7D73-A0A21FC2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0622
SubSys ID: 0x82AD1043
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Driver Strong Name: oem2.inf:NVIDIA_SetA_Devices.NTamd64.6.1:Section005:8.17.13.142ci\ven_10de&dev_0622
Rank Of Driver: 00E62001
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D3D9 Overlay: Supported
DXVA-HD: Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled

 

[AndrewT]

Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (30Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: SONY TV

Here is your problem, the game requires a refresh rate of 50hz or better. If this TV can't support that, can you try a normal PC monitor instead?

 

[unmerged(506040)]

Here is your problem, the game requires a refresh rate of 50hz or better. If this TV can't support that, can you try a normal PC monitor instead?

No, I can't. This is my gaming rig. I'm not going to make a special one for this game.

Should I be reaching out to steam for a refund/credit back?

 

[AndrewT]

Can you at least check if that screen supports a refresh rate of 50hz?

That aside, yes.

 

[unmerged(506040)]

Can you at least check if that screen supports a refresh rate of 50hz?

That aside, yes.

It does not support anything above 30Hz unfortunately. I'm confused though why it is able to initialize to the point of prepping the game and cycles through many stages before CTD. I also don't understand why it core dumps because the refresh rate on the monitor - doesn't that seem like something you would expect is managed in the video card layer, or at worst in the nvidia drivers? The last time I heard of caring about refresh rate in the implementation was back in the days when you had to implement your own VESA drivers.

I'm pretty disappointed, it looks like a great game.

 

[AndrewT]

I can only agree, I'm not aware that there's any intrinsic reason why the game can't be made to run at 30hz. And it would be nice if the game handled it more elegantly in any case. I have pointed this out as an issue to the developers, whether it will be addressed in 1.06 I do not yet know.

In EU3 at release time it wouldn't run below 60hz! In an early patch they dropped that to 50hz where it's stayed ever since. It too crashes ungracefully if you try to run it on a 30hz TV, although I can't recall if it's in the same place in the load sequence.

 

[AlexanderXII]

I have this same problem, but my laptop monitor is 60hz!!! Whats the problem there?

 

[Mr. G]

I have this same problem, but my laptop monitor is 60hz!!! Whats the problem there?

Same thing here, I could start the game with at home on my Dell U2711, but now (ASUS G55 1080p) it won't start... Where can I find the settings file if I bought the game on Steam?

Edit: fixed it

 

[AndrewT]

I have this same problem, but my laptop monitor is 60hz!!! Whats the problem there?

In that case it's NOT the same problem. Please start your own fresh thread, with full problem and system details, as you see me ask for in almost every thread here. Thanks.

 

[AndrewT]

Same thing here, I could start the game with at home on my Dell U2711, but now (ASUS G55 1080p) it won't start... Where can I find the settings file if I bought the game on Steam?

Edit: fixed it

How? It may help us to help others. thanks.

 

[Mr. G]

How? It may help us to help others. thanks.

Nah, my problem was that the settings.txt still thought that I could use 2540x1440. I changed that to 1920x1080 and everything works fine.