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Ghoul_BR said:
Well, there is a topic which is the best nation for beginers...

So... I guess... besides the great powers (+ Brazil, + Mexico)... which country you think deserves to be played at least once?
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Greece, China, Japan, Netherlands, Belgium, Krakow, Transvaal, (do you count the three Italian minors as GP?), Hungary, Ukraine, Poland.

All great games.
 
Legosim said:
Greece, China, Japan, Netherlands, Belgium, Krakow, Transvaal, (do you count the three Italian minors as GP?), Hungary, Ukraine, Poland.

All great games.
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To play Hungary, Ukraine and Poland you have to create then first as satellites of Prussia/Russia/Austria ... then dissolve the aliance with then and then declare war to be free right?
 
Ghoul_BR said:
To play Hungary, Ukraine and Poland you have to create then first as satellites of Prussia/Russia/Austria ... then dissolve the aliance with then and then declare war to be free right?
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Yes, you would have to load as Russia to release Poland and/or Ukraine.
You could also load as Prussia to release Poland, but it would be a much smaller Poland than the Russian one.

Then you reload, right-clicking on the flag to choose the nation you want.
You'll be a satellite until you declare war on your overlord nation. Or you might be able to break away peacefully by having a revolution. I think when you have a revolution, the message box says "all our alliances are broken!"

In VIP Revolutions, Hungary declares independence in 1848 or 1849. So you could start the game as another country, wait for that event, then reload as Hungary.
 
I agree, Playing Sardinia-Piedmont is a very good way to have fun as a beginner. Just want for the 50s for the alliances of the other italian states to expire and you can conquer Lucca, Parma and Modena in a couple of days. Selling France's core provinces helps having enough cash to last long enough to unify Italy (try to keep the coal-producing one though).

Once You form Italy, you should become a Great Power in no time and have plenty of core provinces to acquire in Austria, so the game stays interesting. You can also try with Two Sicilies, but it's slightly harder.

As for the nations who definitely deserve to be tried, CSA has to be played through the CW, but I guess it's not as good for beginners.
 
doublezero said:
Yes, you would have to load as Russia to release Poland and/or Ukraine.
You could also load as Prussia to release Poland, but it would be a much smaller Poland than the Russian one.

Then you reload, right-clicking on the flag to choose the nation you want.
You'll be a satellite until you declare war on your overlord nation. Or you might be able to break away peacefully by having a revolution. I think when you have a revolution, the message box says "all our alliances are broken!"
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Congress poland is bigger in size but i think their are more poles in posen and galicia for some reason.

It's better to start a revolution as the overlord after satelliting then as as the satellite. Or use an event.
 
Hellkeeper said:
I agree, Playing Sardinia-Piedmont is a very good way to have fun as a beginner. Just want for the 50s for the alliances of the other italian states to expire and you can conquer Lucca, Parma and Modena in a couple of days. Selling France's core provinces helps having enough cash to last long enough to unify Italy (try to keep the coal-producing one though).

Once You form Italy, you should become a Great Power in no time and have plenty of core provinces to acquire in Austria, so the game stays interesting. You can also try with Two Sicilies, but it's slightly harder.

As for the nations who definitely deserve to be tried, CSA has to be played through the CW, but I guess it's not as good for beginners.
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Nah, sell Savoy for some French overseas colony, then start colonizing ;) (you could get up to 15 provinces 15 techs 15 claims and arbitrary amount of their cash reserve)
 
Sweden, chances to take back territory that the Russians stole (Finland), Invading Denmark and then from there on invading the German Area.

Also, pretty good Navy.
 
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