Betrothal won't complete if son is a baron

[tvremote84]

I have two occurrences of this happening. As the king of wales my son came of age and I betrothed him to the countess of rennes, who was like 14 or something. After I did this I gave my son a barony in paris I had inherited since I kinda just wanted him to get out of my hair. However, when the countess came of age the betrothal did not complete. Her picture still says betrothed, and I couldn't seem to find a way to make the betrothal turn into a marriage. Eventually I revoked my son's barony, and immediately they became married.

Then, as the duke of apulia pretty much the same thing happened. I arrainged a betrothal for my son to a countess, gave him a barony and then the marriage won't complete.

I feel like this has to be a bug, otherwise its a pretty crappy mechanic. I know baronies aren't really supposed to be used or something, but if the marriages won't complete at least prevent me from giving that son the land.

 

[OdinTGE]

I have two occurrences of this happening. As the king of wales my son came of age and I betrothed him to the countess of rennes, who was like 14 or something. After I did this I gave my son a barony in paris I had inherited since I kinda just wanted him to get out of my hair. However, when the countess came of age the betrothal did not complete. Her picture still says betrothed, and I couldn't seem to find a way to make the betrothal turn into a marriage. Eventually I revoked my son's barony, and immediately they became married.

Then, as the duke of apulia pretty much the same thing happened. I arrainged a betrothal for my son to a countess, gave him a barony and then the marriage won't complete.

I feel like this has to be a bug, otherwise its a pretty crappy mechanic. I know baronies aren't really supposed to be used or something, but if the marriages won't complete at least prevent me from giving that son the land.

Well, what's happening is that once you give them the Barony they're out of your court and thus they make their own marriage decisions. But you've betrothed them so they're probably not marrying. I agree it should work but I see why it doesn't.

I give my heirs baronies all the time too just to get rid of the 'unlanded sons' thing. I always make sure I've got them all hitched up first though because once they're out of your court they could go off and do something really dumb.

 

[tvremote84]

I was under the impression that betrothal was marriage, just at a later date. So once I arrainge the betrothal, even if they aren't in my court the marriage should still take place. Or at the very least, the betrothal should disappear. Right now its in limbo, since I can't get them to do anything neither will produce children. Come to think of it, its actually quite an exploit to get female counts to die heirless.

 

[Drakken]

I was under the impression that betrothal was marriage, just at a later date. So once I arrainge the betrothal, even if they aren't in my court the marriage should still take place. Or at the very least, the betrothal should disappear. Right now its in limbo, since I can't get them to do anything neither will produce children. Come to think of it, its actually quite an exploit to get female counts to die heirless.

Betrothals can be broken.

 

[tvremote84]

But not when the character isn't in my court (because i've made them a baron). And since the ai won't do it, the only options are to revoke the barony or...nothing. But still, isn't the fact that the couple is still betrothed after they become of age a bug? Shouldn't something happen, even if it's just an event saying the betrothal is canceled or something?

 

[K-vald]

Actually, the betrothal won't complete by itself, you have to force it to complete. It's probably a case of the AI not completing it on it's own.

 

[unmerged(310839)]

I have the same issue. The option to break the betrothal isn't even there.