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What is the plan for bohemia? I'm asking because they have done quite well in my games and there is only one event for them and no monarchs. The only event they have seems to be connected to rivalry with Hungary.
 
If you got any good ideas let me hear them, but with Hungary and Bavaria crunching them, they will prolly have a short life in MP.

In SP this is another case, I don't want to outright doom any country for self-destruct.
 
How about an event where Bohemia can choose to be vassalised by Hungary/Bavaria/etc? This would protect them for a bit. There could then be an event series to do with Hungary having trouble with Bohemia and releasing it. Although this is probably a terrible suggestion, and it's especially terrible because it sounds slightly wrong (it sounds a bit like a cheat)
 
tombom said:
How about an event where Bohemia can choose to be vassalised by Hungary/Bavaria/etc? This would protect them for a bit. There could then be an event series to do with Hungary having trouble with Bohemia and releasing it. Although this is probably a terrible suggestion, and it's especially terrible because it sounds slightly wrong (it sounds a bit like a cheat)

Seeking protection with one of them, good idea.

But this will only enhance the deathgrip Hungary or Bavaria has on Bohemia, but we might look into giving them option to breakfree somehow, hmm.
 
Here is the sort of thing I was thinking of:

Code:
# Bohemia Seeks Protection
event = {
	id = 201905
	random = no
	country = BOH
	name = "Bohemia Seeks Protection"
	desc = "Bohemia was often involved in various conflicts. Ottokar VI decided that the country needed to join with 

someone else to survive."
	style = 1
	
	date = { day = 4 month = august year = 1466 }

	action_a ={ # Ally with Hungary!
		name = "Join Hungary!"
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = relation which = HUN value = 200 }
		command = { type = dynastic which = HUN }
		command = { type = trigger which = 201906 }
	}
	action_b ={ # We stand independent!
		name = "We have no need for protection!"
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = relation which = HUN value = -100 }
	}
}

# Bohemia Seeks Protection
event = {
	id = 201906
	random = no
	country = HUN
	name = "Bohemia Seeks Protection"
	desc = "Bohemia was often involved in various conflicts. Ottokar VI decided that the country needed to join with 

someone else to survive."
	style = 1
	
	#Triggered by Bohemian event

	action_a ={ # Ally with Hungary!
		name = "Excellent!"
		command = { type = vassal which = BOH }
		command = { type = relation which = BOH value = 200 }
	}
}

# Bohemia grows restless
event = {
	id = 201907
	random = no
	country = HUN
	name = "Bohemia Grows Restless"
	desc = "Under the rule of Ottokar IX, the people of Bohemia grew restless. They wanted independence from Hungary."
	style = 1
	
	date = { day = 2 month = september year = 1531 }

	action_a ={ # Keep them under our thumb!
		name = "Keep them under our thumb!"
		command = { type = stability value = -3 }
		command = { type = relation which = BOH value = -400 }
		command = { type = breakdynastic which = BOH }
		command = { type = revolt   which = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt   which = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt   which = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt   which = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt   which = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt   which = -1 }
	}
	action_b ={ # Release them.
		name = "Release them."
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = relation which = BOH value = 50 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 201908 }
	}
}

# We are free again!
event = {
	id = 201908
	random = no
	country = BOH
	name = "Bohemia is free again!"
	desc = "Hungary granted Bohemia independence once more."
	style = 1
	

	action_a ={ 
		name = "Hooray!"
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = relation which = HUN value = 50 }
		command = { type = breakvassal  which = HUN }
	}
}

(This is just a very rough outline of what I was thinking)

You could also have the two nations fighting on behalf of their new vassal.
 
Sure, why not?
 
tombom said:
Do you want to keep the existing Bohemian event and the Hussites?

Both Bavaria and Hungary will get the cores. But Bohemia will have the option to either ally herself with Hungary or Bavaria to stay protected, but both sides will gain their cores. There will be no breakup event as a SP Bohemia player will do it anyway likely anyway.
 
Here are the changed events for Bohemia:

Code:
# Bohemia Seeks Protection
event = {
	id = 201905
	random = no
	country = BOH
	name = "Bohemia Seeks Protection"
	desc = "Bohemia was often involved in various conflicts. Jiriz Podebrad decided that the country needed to join with someone else to survive."
	style = 1
	
	date = { day = 4 month = august year = 1466 }

	action_a ={ # Ally with Hungary!
		name = "Join Hungary!"
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = relation which = HUN value = 200 }
		command = { type = relation which = BAY value = -100 }
		command = { type = dynastic which = HUN }
		command = { type = trigger which = 201906 }
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 201909 }
	}
	action_b ={ # Ally with Bavaria!
		name = "Join Bavaria!"
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = relation which = BAY value = 200 }
		command = { type = relation which = HUN value = -100 }
		command = { type = dynastic which = BAY }
		command = { type = trigger which = 201907 }
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 201908 }
	}
	action_c ={ # We stand independent!
		name = "We have no need for protection!"
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = relation which = HUN value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = BAY value = -100 }
	}
}

# Bohemia Seeks Protection
event = {
	id = 201906
	random = no
	country = HUN
	name = "Bohemia Seeks Protection"
	desc = "Bohemia was often involved in various conflicts. Jiriz Podebrad decided that the country needed to join with someone else to survive."
	style = 1
	
	#Triggered by Bohemian event

	action_a ={ # Ally with Hungary!
		name = "Excellent!"
		command = { type = vassal which = BOH }
		command = { type = relation which = BOH value = 200 }
	}
}

# Bohemia Seeks Protection
event = {
	id = 201907
	random = no
	country = BAY
	name = "Bohemia Seeks Protection"
	desc = "Bohemia was often involved in various conflicts. Jiriz Podebrad decided that the country needed to join with someone else to survive."
	style = 1
	
	#Triggered by Bohemian event

	action_a ={ # Ally with Bavaria!
		name = "Excellent!"
		command = { type = vassal which = BOH }
		command = { type = relation which = BOH value = 200 }
	}
}

# The Austrian Claims
event = {
	id = 201908
	random = no
	country = BOH
	name = "The Austrian Claims"
	desc = "Austria was always a bone of contention between Bavaria and Hungary. When Bohemia choose one as their protector, the rivalry got worse."
	style = 1
	
	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1475 }

	action_a ={ # Side with Hungary!
		name = "Side with Hungary!"
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = relation which = HUN value = 200 }
		command = { type = relation which = BAY value = -200 }
		command = { type = alliance which = HUN }
		command = { type = casusbelli which = BAY value = 72 }
	}
	action_b ={ # Seek neutrality.
		name = "We shall take no part in the conflict."
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = relation which = BAY value = 50 }
		command = { type = relation which = HUN value = -100 }
	}
}

# The Austrian Claims
event = {
	id = 201909
	random = no
	country = BOH
	name = "The Austrian Claims"
	desc = "Austria was always a bone of contention between Bavaria and Hungary. When Bohemia choose one as their protector, the rivalry got worse."
	style = 1
	
	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1475 }

	action_a ={ # Side with Bavaria!
		name = "Side with Bavaria!"
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = relation which = BAY value = 200 }
		command = { type = relation which = HUN value = -200 }
		command = { type = alliance which = BAY }
		command = { type = casusbelli which = HUN value = 72 }
	}
	action_b ={ # Seek neutrality.
		name = "We shall take no part in the conflict."
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = relation which = BAY value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = HUN value = 50 }
	}
}

# Bohemian Succesion
event = {
	id = 201910
	random = no
	country = BOH
	name = "The Death of Ludvik II"
	desc = "Ludvik II died with no heirs. Hungary desired to put its monarchs on the throne, but this move was opposed by many."
	style = 1
	
	date = { day = 29 month = august year = 1523 }

	action_a ={ # Accept their monarchs
		name = "We must accept Hungary!"
		command = { type = stability value = -3 }
		command = { type = relation which = BAY value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = HUN value = 150 }
		
	}
	action_b ={ # Ignore them
		name = "We shall ignore them!"
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = relation which = HUN value = -150 }
		command = { type = relation which = BAY value = 50 }
		command = { type = casusbelli which = HUN value = 12 }
		command = { type = wakemonarch which = 06241 }
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 06237 }
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 06238 }
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 06239 }
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 06240 }
	}
}

event = {
	id = 201911
	random = no
	country = BOH
	name = "The Bohemian Regency"
	desc = "After the last hungarian king of Bohemia died with no heirs, the Bohemians introduced a regency. However, no king was ever introduced and it was really a republic."
	style = 1
	
	date = { day = 6 month = november year = 1578 }

	action_a ={
		name = "Shame."
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = relation which = HUN value = -25 }
		command = { type = wakemonarch which = 06241 }
	}
}

event = {
	id = 201912
	random = no
	country = BOH
	name = "Revival of Bohemia"
	desc = "You have managed to defeat the kingdom of Hungary and take its lands. You are now revered by many!"
	style = 1
	trigger = {
		owned = { province = 316 data = BOH }
		owned = { province = 325 data = BOH }
		owned = { province = 324 data = BOH }
		owned = { province = 326 data = BOH }
		owned = { province = 352 data = BOH }
		owned = { province = 353 data = BOH }
		NOT = { exists = HUN }
	
	}

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
	offset = 365
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1820 }

	action_a ={
		name = "Excellent!"
		command = { type = stability value = 3 }
		command = { type = treasury value = 100 }
		command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = 1 }
		command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = 1 }
		command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = 1 }
		command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = 1 }
		command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = 1 }
		command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = 1 }
		command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = 1 }
		command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = 1 }
		command = { type = vp value = 50 }
	}
}

And monarchs: (replace everything after Hapsburgs comment)
Code:
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 06237 }
	startdate = {
		day = 29
		month = august
		year = 1523
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 3
		month = october
		year = 1538
	}
	name = "Salamon I"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 2
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 06238 }
	startdate = {
		day = 3
		month = october
		year = 1538
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 17
		month = january
		year = 1574
	}
	name = "Salamon II"
	DIP = 5
	ADM = 6
	MIL = 4
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 06239 }
	startdate = {
		day = 17
		month = january
		year = 1574

	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 2
		month = january
		year = 1577
	}
	name = "László I"
	DIP = 9
	ADM = 9
	MIL = 9
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 06240 }
	startdate = {
		day = 2
		month = january
		year = 1577

	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 6
		month = november
		year = 1578
	}
	name = "László II"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 1
	MIL = 1
	dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 06241 }
	startdate = {
		day = 29
		month = august
		year = 1523
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 1
		month = january
		year = 1820
	}
	name = "Bohemian Regency"
	DIP = 6
	ADM = 7
	MIL = 5
	dormant = yes
}
 
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Moreover, while you're at it chaning monarchs, could you please remove the Bohemian monarch Albrecht, since that is the same person as Albert V of Swabia, and the Habsburgs are not supposed to have anything to do in Bohemia in Aberration.
The easiest would be to just rename him and change some stats at your desire.
 
events

I created some events for the aberration Bohemia, About 30k worth, up to 1600 (so far).

I hadn’t looked at this thread- indeed any of these threads, so I could not (will not) pretend that they fit in too well with any macro-planning you might have for the whole thing. Plus, I know nothing about Bohemian history, so they are all very, very aberrated.

This idea is that if Bohemia manages to win the hussite wars in 1419-30 (where everyone else gets their land as cores) they get events which let them get cores on their neighbours- it’s a kind of choice thing about which direction they want to go. The general premise is that the hussites are a kind of proto-Protestantism. They can either channel this towards internal expansion (protestant work ethic) or external (causing trouble in religious chaos known as the Balkans).

It still remains very hard to win the hussite wars, on v-hard I can do it about 30% of the time, so I don’t think it will screw up the expansion of other countries unless player is Bohemia, in which case Bavaria is always your bitter enemy.

So long as you stay protestant in the 15th, all kinds of crazy shit breaks loose. I am averaging a couple of civil wars and 50+ revolts due to religion/war fatigue etc. Because everyone else has cores and CB’s against you, the whole thing is one huge struggle. The theory is, risk some big hazards, for some sweet rewards.

I have event strings dealing with:

>Post-Hussite fallout.
>A ‘minor crusade’ in the Balkans.
>Reclaiming the house of Luxembourg’s lands.
>A strategic royal marriage.
>’Flavour’ type events.

The 17th century events are going to be a continuation of the religious strife, and some conflicts with the trading powers, as Bohemia finds it hard to get a CoT.
 
When you send them to my e-mail I got have a closer look at that stuff, I can´t guarantee anything off course for now.:)