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A few days ago I posted about how I wasn't being allowed to break Royal Marriages. Someone suggested that maybe my stability was too low and I wasn't allowed to go negative. Seemed like a good theory so I let that one go. However, now I don't buy it. In the same game I want out of my alliance, yet the STUPID FREAKIN' GAME WON'T LET ME LEAVE, JUST LIKE WITH THE ROYAL MARRIAGES! I can select the 'Leave Alliance' option over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over (well, you get the idea) and nothing happens. Zilch. Nada. Rien. Where is the information on how to play this game? It's certainly not in the manual. WHY CAN'T I LEAVE AN ALLIANCE?
 
Have you tried it with high stablity? You loose stability when you leave alliances and that might lead you to got under the -3 limit. Also, you might want to start a new game, say Austria. The very first thing you should try is to break the Royal Marriage with Hungary. You should have no problems as long as you don't try anything for breaking the marriage that might lead to an error coming up. If you still can't do it it could be a corrupt file somewhere. Try reinstalling the game. If that still doesn't work, just wait for 1.08 patch.
 
Stability?

Yes, I've tried it with +3 stability and it still won't allow me to break the alliance. I'll try reinstalling (which is a pain in and of itself) and see if it makes a difference. The current game I'm playing is basically dead in the water if I'm not allowed to leave the alliance I'm in. The interesting thing is that less than 1 hour after I posted the same message on Usenet, another American posted with the same problem. I'm wondering how come a lot of these problems are only becoming known since the 1.07c American version. Either that patch caused some problems or the Europeans know the rules to this game intimately enough that these things didn't need to be included in the manual. If someone that knows how the game code works can respond as to why I should or should not be allowed to leave this alliance I would appreciate it.
 
Hello?

Originally posted by BiB
When someone of the alliance gets in a war, just stay out.
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Ah, so what you're recommending is that I wait until a NEW war involving one of my allies starts and then I can just refuse to join in and I'm free. Now why didn't I think of that? Not! That is not a solution. That is a workaround. If I want of my alliance now, what game mechanic is supposed to prohibit me from doing so? The lack of replies to this thread make me think that the people in the know have no answer to this.
 
What's wrong with a workaround then if the obvious way isn't working ?

U post a problem here (most likely a very minor bug) which has a very easy workaround to solve it. Get on with it.
You can't always get what u want. Stop whingeing and be creative. Even if it turns out to be a bug. FFS.

(btw I had tested it before and yes, it seems a bug btw, I then mention an easy workaround for it and look at the thanx I get. It's not like u cannot enjoy the game at all anymore. If u really get all worked up about such a thing ...)
 
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WHY CAN'T I LEAVE AN ALLIANCE?

I actually have very little experience with this problem, I'm usually not in an alliace in the first place if I don't wan't to be in it ;)

Anyway, could it perhaps be that you are the allaince leader (original creator)?

Thus you might have to kick everyone you invited one by one (?)
 
U can't leave alliances as leader.

But as he said when u aren't the leader and click on 'leave alliance' with the leader and u confirm, u just stay in the alliance anyway. Shame he's so against workarounds.
 
Originally posted by BiB
U can't leave alliances as leader.

But as he said when u aren't the leader and click on 'leave alliance' with the leader and u confirm, u just stay in the alliance anyway. Shame he's so against workarounds.
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First, a quick acknowledgement that I am NOT the leader of the alliance in question. As to BiB, actually, I'm not against workarounds as long I know I'm not the only one experiencing this problem. When you first posted, you had not stated that you had duplicated this issue. You followed up with a message stating that the problem I'm having occurs for you, as well. That's good enough for me, as we've now confirmed that it is an issue that needs to be fixed, and I will deal with as necessary, though not knowing I couldn't get out of an alliance that I should have been able to puts a serious damper in my plans for the Grand Campaign that I've invested a lot of time and effort in. It basically means that my efforts over the last few game years are for nothing because I can't finish the plan as I had scheduled it. I now have to wait for my allies to get into a war, which theoretically could take a while. But I will accept that since we now know we have a bug issue. I will stand by my statement, though, that I find it incredibly hard to believe that no one caught this and reported it before. This is a pretty blatant diplomacy bug.
 
This is a pretty blatant diplomacy bug.

Hmm, if it's a bug, while beeing fixed, try some of the tips I have under 'difficulty making a peace' in my FAQ.

They might solve the problem for you if you run into it again.
 
Untill u said so I had never encountered the thing nor had I heard anyone else with it (I especially went to check it).

As far as bugs go, seeing there's a workaround, this is as good as they come. Nothing to get that worked up for.

In history monarchs were confronted with unexpected situations all the time. Accept it and deal with it.
 
Originally posted by Huszics
This is a pretty blatant diplomacy bug.

Hmm, if it's a bug, while beeing fixed, try some of the tips I have under 'difficulty making a peace' in my FAQ.

They might solve the problem for you if you run into it again.
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I'll do that but it's not difficulty in making peace that I'm having.
 
Originally posted by BiB
Untill u said so I had never encountered the thing nor had I heard anyone else with it (I especially went to check it).

As far as bugs go, seeing there's a workaround, this is as good as they come. Nothing to get that worked up for.

In history monarchs were confronted with unexpected situations all the time. Accept it and deal with it.
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Except that I'm not a monarch. I'm a consumer who paid money for a product that doesn't work as advertised. What is up with you fanboys? Perhaps as a spoiled American I expect things to work correctly. What a crime. So if it doesn't work why don't the programmers remove the option from the diplomancy menu and modify the rules, and the 'manual', so that it states that you cannot leave an alliance you are a part of. But, using your reasoning, monarchs were allowed to leave alliances any time they want. Why can't I? I don't understand your complacency, but perhaps it's a cultural difference. The programmers know about it. They either fix it or acknowledge that they made a mistake. It's that simple. It's not a matter of whether it's a big bug or a little bug. It's a matter of it being a known bug that for some unknown no one in Europe encountered in the six months or more that they've had the game. Bizarre. It's also a matter of the 'roll me over and screw me because I don't care if things work or not' attitude. Workarounds are not answers. They are bandaids. People have to be held responsible for the quality of their work.
 
Originally posted by Plantagenet


I'll do that but it's not difficulty in making peace that I'm having.
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Yes, I've understand that. Just thought that sice the symtoms where about the same, mayby some of the same fixes could solve it too.
 
Originally posted by Plantagenet


Except that I'm not a monarch. I'm a consumer who paid money for a product that doesn't work as advertised. What is up with you fanboys? Perhaps as a spoiled American I expect things to work correctly. What a crime. So if it doesn't work why don't the programmers remove the option from the diplomancy menu and modify the rules, and the 'manual', so that it states that you cannot leave an alliance you are a part of. But, using your reasoning, monarchs were allowed to leave alliances any time they want. Why can't I? I don't understand your complacency, but perhaps it's a cultural difference. The programmers know about it. They either fix it or acknowledge that they made a mistake. It's that simple. It's not a matter of whether it's a big bug or a little bug. It's a matter of it being a known bug that for some unknown no one in Europe encountered in the six months or more that they've had the game. Bizarre. It's also a matter of the 'roll me over and screw me because I don't care if things work or not' attitude. Workarounds are not answers. They are bandaids. People have to be held responsible for the quality of their work.
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Oh, boohoo. I just don't like ur attitude, the spoilt brat one. No game is perfect. If a tiny bug has that effect on u, then I'm sorry for u, but happiness is not what u will get, ever. Quite sad really.

Paradox have been the most impressing firm I've ever seen when it comes to helping out their customers, listening to their suggestions, improving their work and I feel that deserves more than ur type of whining. If that makes me a fanboy, so ****ing what (besides most of these 'fanboys' are the ones answering some of the most silly questions on these forums to help others out, some friendliness wouldn't go astray IMO). At least I judge them based on the facts.

Complacency ? This firm has been about the most active in improving their work and they fully deserve the support for their work. Just that u expect it to be happened yesterday, before they very well might even know about it. 'roll me over and screw me because I don't care if things work or not' This game has improved dramatically since it first came out. Continually and for free. Sommink u fail to acknowledge. First learn the facts before u judge.

Bringing culture into this is absolute bollox. I can assure u there are plenty European whingebags too.

(Btw leaving an alliance wasn't always an option then either.)
 
Originally posted by BiB


(Btw leaving an alliance wasn't always an option then either.)
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Then if you knew about it, why didn't you just say so at the beginning of the thread instead of being just an idiot? Let me guess: that would've been too easy, eh?
 
Originally posted by Plantagenet


Then if you knew about it, why didn't you just say so at the beginning of the thread instead of being just an idiot? Let me guess: that would've been too easy, eh?
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Once again u judge without being bothered by any facts. I didn't know it at the start actually, I went to check it out especially for u just cuz I like u so much. Thanx for the kind rewarding words I get for my efforts. The easy way was letting u and ur problem rot away in this forum. I was an idiot for trying to help u.

Could this be true cyberlove?
 
Originally posted by BiB


Once again u judge without being bothered by any facts. I didn't know it at the start actually, I went to check it out especially for u just cuz I like u so much. Thanx for the kind rewarding words I get for my efforts. The easy way was letting u and ur problem rot away in this forum. I was an idiot for trying to help u.

Could this be true cyberlove?
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Well, I have to admit: I do have a warm, fuzzy feeling about you confirming this for me. You've made it quite easy for me now since it appears that what I thought was an option is not an option. Perhaps I was confused by your statement 'it wasn't always an option then either' (or however it was exactly worded). I thought you were saying that the option to leave an alliance didn't work in the early European releases, thus my exasperation and wonderment at why didn't say this originally. I think now, however, that you might actually be saying that the menu option itself didn't exist.
 
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