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Kripox

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So, playing some Aegon in the during the conquest like a scrub. Everything's fine and dandy, with the help of console commands my wives actually stay at home instead of trying to ditch me and conquer single provinces in the Summer Islands every 2 years, life is good. Then, in 8005, I get an event for the brindleman invasion of the southern Free Cities that I haven't seen before in my limited time playing this mod. Check the invading force and get kind of dumbfounded. The invading force has more than 45k men, beating all my lords paramount save for Tyrell in the Reach (who beats everyone else by a huge margin with his 58k men to Lannister's 44k. This is with the recently posted revised map submod). He also has 1500 ships. Anyway, Tyrosh, the city being attacked, can only muster 4 and a half thousand men and are absolutely going to get demolished.

Then the fun part, the leader of the invaders is a dragon rider. And his dragon, Steelwing, is even older than Balerion, and while he is weaker than Balerion is he is stronger than both Meraxes and Vhagar. Suddenly I don't have monopoly on dragon live dragons.

What the hell is this? I have faced a Mountain Clansman uprising in the Vale in the past, but that had fewer men despite attacking a much more powerful realm, and had no damn dragons. I'm kinda worried this guy is going to end up annihilating Tyrosh and then use Dragon Conquest and his gargantuan army to steamroll the entirety of the free cities unless I use my own Dragon Conquest on him as soon as he's taken Tyrosh and becomes targetable in war. I can use dragon conquest on other dragon riders right?

So, my questions:

1.) Can I dragon conquest other dragon riders?
2.) Can this guy dragon conquest the entire Free Cities to bits once he has Tyrosh?
3.) Are these invasions common? Do they tend to have dragons?
4.) Are there other invasions I should know of? Anything in particular to look out for, principally if I decide to play someone less powerful than the King of the Iron Throne next time?

Any other information about invasions, no matter what, would also be appreciated.

EDIT: Also, completely unrelated, are there any special events involving Quenton Qoherys, the guy who was awarded Harrenhal in the books? He has a flag called Aerion Qoherys in game but I haven't seen the flag do anything. I had to give him Harrenhal manually. Shouldn't there be some kind of event like with Orys Baratheon?
 
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You don't need to worry about the Brindlemen in my honest opinion. The fact they are different government types, religions, and cultures than the rest of the free cities means the area they conquer will destabilize so fast. Also, since Brindlemen aren't traditionally dragon riders like the Valyrians, when the current dragon-riding Brindle king dies, his dragon will start hopping between various courts.

Your questions:
1) I think if you're both dragon riders, you can't do a dragon conquest on him.
2) From my experience seeing that invasion, they usually stop after the initial conquest. So they're doomstack will dwindle away via attrition, but the 1500 boats will still be there.
3) They usually only appear once in every game.
4) The only other mass invasions I know of are the Aztecs if you have the Sunset Invasion DLC active as well as the Others coming through YiTi and The North.

As to your edit, from what I saw looking at the Aegon's Conquest event file and the Iron Throne event file, the only person events that pop up are the Durrandon/Baratheon union (If the requirements are met, but usually Argella gets married off very quickly to some low Stormland noble, Cole, I believe is his family) and the Volmark event where some guy in the Iron Islands declares himself a Hoare and I think goes to war with you, I never personally saw that event happen since the Hoares usually live in my Aegon's Conquest bookmark.
 
Well, I didn't worry about the brindlemen being threatening in any way, I am king in westeros with a more powerful ruler and a stronger dragon than this guy. And i have 3 of them! I was more worried that he'd end up carving all the free cities into horrendous bordergore and/or destroy all the merchant republics leaving only a host of scattered normal republics and feudal lords in Essos. Hope I can avoid that. If they don't go any further than Tyrosh I guess it's not much of an issue.

As for the Qoherys, can you tell what his flag does? Using the charinfo console command I can see that he has a unique flag named after him just like Aegon has, but I've yet to see the flag do anything.

Also never seen the Volmark event, I burned Harren and his entire court to cinders with Balerion and handed the lord paramountship over to Greyjoy immediately. Volmark hasn't done anything of note. I'm not far in though, maybe later. I have a feeling he's gonna regret it if he tries anything though, Greyjoy can probably smash him even without my help, and I'm popular enough to expect the support of my lords paramount.
 
Quenten Qoherys was the master-at-arms of Dragonstone for Aegon before he invaded Westeros. Aegon granted the lands of Harrenhal to Quenten after the conquest. My guess is that if you choose the bookmark where Maegor is king, a Qoherys will still rule Harrenhal so perhaps it's just a personal banner. It's really the same for major locations, i.e. if a Stark is king of Westeros, you see a direwolf instead of a dragon for the Targaryens. Same for Lannisters, Arryns, Tullys.
 
Event flags. It's the only way I use the term in relation to CK2.

Is it even possible for a landless courtier like Qoherys to have a banner of his own? As far as I'm aware you need land for that, and then you either use the standard banner for your primary title or you use your dynasty shield if you belong to certain dynasties.

So yes, the question about Qoherys is if his event flag does anything of note. He also starts in the court of the lord of Driftmark, not Aegon's court, which is pretty weird if he's supposed to be Dragonstone's Master at Arms.

Also, after manually giving Qoherys Harrenhal the banner doesn't change, so seemingly House Qoherys doesn't get to use its dynasty shield as its banner, it has to use whatever their main title has as standard.