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Bring them back as they did exist in the 14 century as they were mentioned by ابن فضل الله العمري and أحمد القلقشندي
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The earliest mention of the Mutayr tribe was by Ibn Fadlallah Al-Omari, a historian from the 7th century AH (700–769 AH). He mentioned them in the context of his discussion about the princes of Rabi’ah, the kings of the desert, as well as the tribes neighboring Mecca. Another reference to the name of Mutayr appears in the book Tuhfat Al-Mawdōd bi Sharh Manārāt Al-Sudūd by Ahmad Al-Qalqashandi, which is a historical book that confirms that Mutayr descends from the Ghaṭafān lineage.Plus the location Mutayr's original homelands were the highlands of northern Hejaz near Medina. At some point in the 17th century, however, the tribe began a large-scale migration eastwards into central Arabia, displacing many other Bedouin tribes in the area, such as Harb and 'Anizzah who were forced to move northwards after.
 

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This is it In English
The earliest mention of the Mutayr tribe was by Ibn Fadlallah Al-Omari, a historian from the 7th century AH (700–769 AH). He mentioned them in the context of his discussion about the princes of Rabi’ah, the kings of the desert, as well as the tribes neighboring Mecca. Another reference to the name of Mutayr appears in the book Tuhfat Al-Mawdōd bi Sharh Manārāt Al-Sudūd by Ahmad Al-Qalqashandi, which is a historical book that confirms that Mutayr descends from the Ghaṭafān lineage.
 
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Bring them back as they did exist in the 14 century as they were mentioned by ابن فضل الله العمري and أحمد القلقشندي
Plus the location Mutayr's original homelands were the highlands of northern Hejaz near Medina. At some point in the 17th century, however, the tribe began a large-scale migration eastwards into central Arabia, displacing many other Bedouin tribes in the area, such as Harb and 'Anizzah who were forced to move northwards after.
 
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mutyar migration is a thing but there still those who stayed like my sect who stayed between najd and hajaz which is around the western point of the tribe in the picture of the post which still means it should at least have that western part of the map
 
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Also to be clear that's just the source that I have. Note that even that source suggests a Hijazi origin.

So... maybe around here?

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From The History of Najd Prior to the Wahhabis.
it didn't suddenly surface they were always there but the earliest mention of it was in the 14th century by Ibn Fadlallah Al-Omari, a historian from the 7th century AH (700-769 AH) or by the Gregorian calendar the 14th century it means that they existed prior to that time this the Wikipedia page
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it didn't suddenly surface they were always there but the earliest mention of it was in the 14th century by Ibn Fadlallah Al-Omari, a historian from the 7th century AH (700-769 AH) or by the Gregorian calendar the 14th century it means that they existed prior to that time this the Wikipedia page
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Yeah, I'm mostly in agreement. Do you agree with the location that I suggested in the above post? Or do you think they'd be further south?
 
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Ah, hm... that might be a bit tricky then, since that's where we know the Anizah were. They were specifically ruling over Khaybar and its environs, and that happens to be exactly where you circled.
It’s the same as the blue tag but just remove the eastern part and keep the western parts
 
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