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I felt an urge to start event coding recently. I've never done it before and after writing three events i decided that i wanted to start work on an interesting but simple mod.

Introducing the Byzantium Mod

This mod can/will be merged into the DH full regular campaign, a string of events can lead the European Axis powers to reform the Byzantine empire. Events will be begin giving Italy the opportunity to enhance Catholicism throughout Italy and giving the church more influence across the world, Vittorio Emanuele III and Mussolini decide that they may be able to use the religion to draw French loyalty to them and to make Hitler realise that Italy is more than their southern puppet. If certain decisions are made a mass influx of religious pilgrims into Turkey will create instability around Istanbul and north east Greece. Hitler becomes more supportive after the fall of France and the prospect of creating another front with the Soviets along the Caucasian mountains. With the fall of Egypt,Palestine,Yugoslavia and Greece(How would their Byzantine ally beat Turkey if the Allies were hostile to them) Germany and Italy will be able to fuel partisan activity in Istanbul and form an early Byzantine nation backed by the Catholic church. As Byzantium battles for independence Hitler will insist upon a merger with the Orthodox people in Greece (Hitler never much cared for religion) to create a stronger country to battle 'Bolsheviks' with. Eventually Turkey will collapse and the Byzantine Empire will be reborn. After the empire is formed all major nations and groups will try to influence it one way or the other. Catholics will insist on their place within the nation despite the low numbers of Catholics there. Orthodox people will try to out do anything the Catholics do. Turks will reject the existence of the empire and cause havok east of the Dardenelles if not controlled. The Allies will try to shift it to democracy whilst the Soviets won't want a hostile nation to the south and will try to gain control of the government.
The Axis will be the main groups who will have input into the nation, they have the option to industrialise it at their expense and bring in experts of all kinds to help the Byzantines become strong again.

This is the story of the second Byzantine Empire. After i finish that part of the mod i will be adding in other small events to make the game more interesting throughout. (already contained is the Hoover dam's construction, the first flight of Aer Lingus and the formation of the Hitler Youth)

I'm currently in the early stages of the mod and soon a map will be up showing what the Byzantine empire will look like after it defeats Turkey and merges with the Orthodox church, i need help if anyone is willing. The main things i need help with are graphics (counters), historical accuracy (historical research) and an enthusiastic modder who could help me with my inexperience. Message me via the forum if your interested and I'll get back to you ASAP
 
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Sounds great, but I don't think Stalin would even bother with couping a state which tries to recreate the imperial tradition of the Roman empire. He'd support opposition both Greek and Turkish and, if the Byzantines were officially at war with SOV, he'd send a lot of red army their way.
 
I would think he might try to influence it somehow because of the position it has as a way of reaching Baku and his southern oil supply. Perhaps he may just invest in forts in the mountains though. The allies would definitely get involved though. Either way the Byzantine's won't be in the axis alliance unless they choose to do so through certain event choices or major axis intervention within it.
 
I felt an urge to start event coding recently. I've never done it before and after writing three events i decided that i wanted to start work on an interesting but simple mod.

Introducing the Byzantium Mod

This mod can/will be merged into the DH full regular campaign, a string of events can lead the European Axis powers to reform the Byzantine empire. Events will be begin giving Italy the opportunity to enhance Catholicism throughout Italy and giving the church more influence across the world, Vittorio Emanuele III and Mussolini decide that they may be able to use the religion to draw French loyalty to them and to make Hitler realise that Italy is more than their southern puppet. If certain decisions are made a mass influx of religious pilgrims into Turkey will create instability around Istanbul and north east Greece. Hitler becomes more supportive after the fall of France and the prospect of creating another front with the Soviets along the Caucasian mountains. With the fall of Egypt,Palestine,Yugoslavia and Greece(How would their Byzantine ally beat Turkey if the Allies were hostile to them) Germany and Italy will be able to fuel partisan activity in Istanbul and form an early Byzantine nation backed by the Catholic church. As Byzantium battles for independence Hitler will insist upon a merger with the Orthodox people in Greece (Hitler never much cared for religion) to create a stronger country to battle 'Bolsheviks' with. Eventually Turkey will collapse and the Byzantine Empire will be reborn. After the empire is formed all major nations and groups will try to influence it one way or the other. Catholics will insist on their place within the nation despite the low numbers of Catholics there. Orthodox people will try to out do anything the Catholics do. Turks will reject the existence of the empire and cause havok east of the Dardenelles if not controlled. The Allies will try to shift it to democracy whilst the Soviets won't want a hostile nation to the south and will try to gain control of the government.
The Axis will be the main groups who will have input into the nation, they have the option to industrialise it at their expense and bring in experts of all kinds to help the Byzantines become strong again.

This is the story of the second Byzantine Empire. After i finish that part of the mod i will be adding in other small events to make the game more interesting throughout. (already contained is the Hoover dam's construction, the first flight of Aer Lingus and the formation of the Hitler Youth)

I'm currently in the early stages of the mod and soon a map will be up showing what the Byzantine empire will look like after it defeats Turkey and merges with the Orthodox church, i need help if anyone is willing. The main things i need help with are graphics (flags mainly), historical accuracy (historical research) and an enthusiastic modder who could help me with my inexperience. Message me via the forum if your interested and I'll get back to you ASAP

What about Japan? What role will they have in this?
 
after making a basic structure of events and a fully functioning Byzantine empire i will probably expand on it to include other bits. One of the things i was looking for was for the Byzantine empire to be an interesting option to play as for a human player, i may write out a few events for japan if its able to defeat china and the british raj (including singapore, hong kong and dutch east indies). I was planning on having the axis powers make the research of the byzantines. Perhaps there could be events where japan sends a general as an adviser and he could also become a tech team for light infantry (Falkenhausen anyone?). I've actually almost finished creating the byzantines as a country (minus ministers, i was looking for feedback for those. i'll be adding tech teams in the morning)
 
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YAY, finally every Paradox game can have the Byzantiuns!
But seriously this mod is going to be awesome.

PS. Just for the Lulz you should make them purple.
 
i was looking through the colours for purple but there isn't one, i have no idea how to add it unfortunately, I've managed to sort out a purple flag for them but at the moment they are dark gray.

EDIT : i haven't sorted out a flag yet but hopefully tonight i will and i'll be able to show you a screenshot (if all goes to plan)
 
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That's too ahistorical in my opinion...I think the best way should be a Italian-puppet-Greece which has claims on western anatolia and thrace. A byz nation (not kingdom: DH is set during WW2, not in the middle-age) should born once Istanbul has been captured, with the King of Italy as the head of state. Leave Turkey alive, just move their capital to Ankara
 
How were you going to handle the ministers? I'm just spit-balling, but I think you could raid the Greek and Turkish cabinets for candidates.
If you just want to make up dudes, I got a bunch of leader pictures you can use.
 
"The idea of 'Byzantium Reborn' sounds good but even if it conquered the whole Eastern Med. It wouldn't be that powerful industrially, would it?"

That's why european Axis (mainly Germany and Italy) will have events that will provide industry to byzantines at their own expense(on credit), the industry would be made with the promise of attacking the soviets if the opportunity arose.
If the Byzantine player prefers to allign with the Allies then the UK and USA (france aswell if its alive) will get industrialisation events provided the turkish population has full citizenship within the empire.
The soviets could also industrialise it if the byzantine player wanted to swing that way, although the soviet path is different because there would be more reluctance by turks and greeks in the empire to become communist.

"How were you going to handle the ministers? I'm just spit-balling, but I think you could raid the Greek and Turkish cabinets for candidates.
If you just want to make up dudes, I got a bunch of leader pictures you can use."


I was planning on having an event that gave turkish people full citizenship within the empire (most of the population is turkish so not to do so would spell the end of the short lived empire) and that would unlock Turkish military leaders, ministers and tech teams (not all as some of those are from greece too). I was going to at first put the college of cardinals as HoS but they would quickly be removed from lack of support. After that i don't have any idea who would be the HoS/HoG so any help with ministers and leaders would be great!

"That's too ahistorical in my opinion...I think the best way should be a Italian-puppet-Greece which has claims on western anatolia and thrace. A byz nation (not kingdom: DH is set during WW2, not in the middle-age) should born once Istanbul has been captured, with the King of Italy as the head of state. Leave Turkey alive, just move their capital to Ankara"



The fuel for the birth of the empire is from Italy. Historically Mussolini promised to rebuild the Roman empire, with the lands north in German hands where else was he going to build it from. Four countries of note are around the med that the romans had. (Egypt,Spain,Turkey,Greece). With Egypt and Greece in Italian hands and an ideological ally in Spain where would be left for him to conquer? It only makes sense that if unrest started in Turkey the Axis would either have struck deals with the Turkish government to aid them in return for political support or fueled the unrest to create a situation like the one in spain where a nation could be born which was more supportive of the Axis ways. In the background info at the top i mentioned that the catholic church will gain influence in europe (not massive amounts) and will declare that the Ottoman empire should never have been allowed to take Constantinople and will encourage mass immigration to Turkey (it is that immigration that will start the unrest)
I read up on the Spanish Civil war and discovered that the Catholic church was supportive of the nationalists side being as the republicans (being more communist than democratic) were aggressive towards the church. Being as the catholic church has always been strong in Italy (and France) it only makes sense that Mussolini would have (probably did) use the church to become more popular with the people. It is a slightly Ahistorical Mod being as the Italians never got past El Alamein. The real stuff only starts happening after Alexandria and Cairo fall. The Turkish Civil war will(should) only end after Jerusalem, Suez, Cairo and Egypt are in Axis hands. the Civil war should get more violent after the fall of Greece however. (of course a human player will probably take Greece before Egypt if they play historically until the fall of France). Also if Italy takes Greece before WW2 starts then the process of civil war could happen earlier. (Decisions will be made available for Italy)


(i apologise for the lack of proper quotes i've only begun using the forum more recently and am getting to grips with the interface)
 
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