Can I get my relative back?

[DemonScientist]

Preface: I am fully on board the CK3 hype train; however, I am a few DLCs behind in CK2 and haven't played for like a year, and also haven't read every forum thread, so this question may have been answered.

Is there going to be any means of ensuring the safe return of people your character might care about?

I have run into situations where King Me, Kind, Generous and Wroth that he is, would probably have escalated things pretty quickly for reasons other than "Claim on county X," such as "hey, King Jagoff of Hwerever, you seem to have imprisoned my sister when you overthrew her husband; return her to me or there will be consequences." A less angry King Me would replace consequences with bribes/daring jailbreaks, etc.

This kind of thing could probably be modded given the flexible nature of the Casus Belli and Plot systems in CK2, but it's be cool if it were in CK3.

 

[Leyrann]

I'd love to see more options like this. In CK2 wars are over land or sometimes excommunication and that's all. Oh, and rivalry, I think. And beyond that it sometimes feels like there are actually pretty few ways to interact with other people unless you're seducing, swaying, antagonizing or murdering, in particular if they're not your liege or vassal (not that I ever feel like I have a lot of meaningful interaction with my liege...).

 

[randomgamer71]

If you pick the intrigue focus you can try to rescue a prisoner from another court, I don't remember if it is a intrigue decision or if you must right click on the character portrait but it start a chain event to try to free the character, it works even if she was made a concubine.

 

[prismaticmarcus]

i would expect that something like that would be there as casus belli, but we haven't heard anything about casus belli yet.

 

[Brian Bóroimhe]

If you pick the intrigue focus you can try to rescue a prisoner from another court, I don't remember if it is a intrigue decision or if you must right click on the character portrait but it start a chain event to try to free the character, it works even if she was made a concubine.

The problem is that it's limited to the intrigue focus. It's a mechanic that should really be open to all and just a lot easier with intrigue focus.
Also I never realised it could used on concubines as well..

i would expect that something like that would be there as casus belli, but we haven't heard anything about casus belli yet.

And the problem with a CB to rescue prisoners is that their captor could simply execute them the moment you declare it.
As it stands in ck2 I think you are blocked from declaring war on someone who holds your close relative prisoner because they be would executed.

Any sort of prisoner revenge war can then just be a rivalry war, provided your character actually liked the imprisoned& executed relative.

 

[Denkt]

If the enemy start to execute your commanders during a war you should probably be able to threaten them that you will do the same, a big reason not to kill enemy leaders are that they probably will want to take revenge for that. Supposedly one of the reason why they wanted Joan of Arc dead was she had been involved in the capture and execution of a Burgundian commander just weeks Before she was captured.

If somebody execute a close relative for no reason whatsoever, I think some sort of revenge cb should be given but if the relative is a murderer or something similar and the execution is just, I don't think that would justify war.

Is there going to be any means of ensuring the safe return of people your character might care about?

You should be able to ask if they are willing to ransom the prisoner, make a Exchange or maybe to gain a favor (or what the CK3 equivalent is). Intrigue should also be a possibility. During Peace talks there should probably be an option to Agree to release each others captives.

 

[Leyrann]

You should be able to ask if they are willing to ransom the prisoner, make a Exchange or maybe to gain a favor (or what the CK3 equivalent is). Intrigue should also be a possibility. During Peace talks there should probably be an option to Agree to release each others captives.

You should be able to ask ransom or give a favor or something like that indeed, and if the other doesn't agree, you can raise the price you're willing to pay, or threaten with war if they don't comply, and then if they still refuse, you declare war on them. And the same with claims and things like that.

What's the saying again? War is the continuation of diplomacy by other means, or something like that.