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So here you can see mongol (purple), tatar (cyan), altai (silver), uzbek (brown), persian (blue), afghani (beige), and of course turkish (brown) and arabic (pale orange) further to the west and south respectively.

Does anyone have any suggestions for this area? I am slowly re-working the game's cultures (Europe is about done), and I felt this area in particular needed a bit of TLC.

I've already added tatar (aforementioned) and circassian (the emerald green above georgian), which I think improve things somewhat, and I'm thinking about adding turkmen/turkoman, but I'm not sure which provinces it would be in.

Can someone throw some suggestions my way please?

I'm not adding just for the sake of adding, so I don't want to add lots of one or two province cultures - just the major ones which will have a logical effect.

In particular I do not think Samarkand and the surrounding area should be persian or mongol...
 
Chagatai Khanate ruled by mongol
a typical nation set up by Uighurs is Yarkant Khanate,but the monarch still have a blood tie with Genghis Khan

well.we need new map.all this cultures can not fullly display in the oringinal map
 
Okay, here's an update. Can I have some feedback, please? :)

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As you can see, I've expanded khazak somewhat, and brought uzbek down to and around Samarkand.

The new red is turkmen, and of course persian is now a fair bit smaller.

I'm still pretty unsure as to what that patch of mongol by the Caspian is supposed to represent. Were they actually Mongols, or are they supposed to be a new culture group, or turkmen? Very suspect... :eek:o
 
The problem is that Tatar is generally a European collective designation to refer to the Turco-Mongol tribes that invaded Europe. Kazakh, Uzbek, etc. are local names which were not really relevant at the start of the campaign anyway.
 
Therion said:
The problem is that Tatar is generally a European collective designation to refer to the Turco-Mongol tribes that invaded Europe. Kazakh, Uzbek, etc. are local names which were not really relevant at the start of the campaign anyway.
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Which is why the AGCEEP doesn't start with any of them.:)

Also, I find it a bit odd to destroyers of the Timurid dynasty forming the majority of Samarkand's populace in 1419. :D
 
Any constructive criticism then? :eek:o

What do I put where? Can someone please draw me some sort of basic culture map using the EU2 provinces?
 
GregoryTheBruce said:
Ahwaz should be Arabic.

You should probably make a Kurdish culture. Kirkuk wouldn't be a bad province for it.
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hm the years is 1419?

Kurdish culture would be better for Nuyssaybin and Azerbaijan (you can change Kurdistan to armenian since they were about 50-50% or 60-40%) while Kirkuk would be better assyrian (who are nestorian christians) - I just mentioned the latter in the Neapolitan (I think) topic
 
Also, you have an "Afghani" culture in what appears to be modern Afghanistan/Pakistan. Rename it to "Pashtun" and replace it with something else in the southeasternmost province.

Also, Bukhara and Samarkand should be Persian, if that's how you're choosing to represent Tajiks. Timur's empire was highly Persianized and those cities are major Tajik cities.
 
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