CK II - 3.3.0 Monarch's Journey, "Princes of Wales"

[Xiiriel]

One line summary of your issue
3.3.0 Monarch's Journey, "Princes of Wales" not working

Game Version
3.3.0

What expansions do you have installed?
All of the above

Do you have mods enabled?
No

Please explain your issue is in as much detail as possible.
"Princes of Wales" as Llywelyn "the Great". I am Emperor of Britannia, have Welsh culture and hold the Kingdom of Wales as well. I handed my daughter, who is also Welsh, the duchy of Galloway. It doesn't count towards the goal. Another daughter of mine holds the duchy of York. She's Welsh too. She doesn't count either. Ironman mode is on and everything. Why. Is it just because she's a woman? Do women straight up not count? Cause that would be bullshit.

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[name_here]

I had the same issue as custom Empire of Wales. It appears to stop adding to the count when you're Emperor.

 

[Xiiriel]

Nope. Just gave a male member of my dynasty a duchy. He counts. Where my 2 female dynasty members still don't.

 

[Lewa263]

Women aren't Princes.

 

[Xiiriel]

Am I supposed to take this as a joke? Or as an actual answer? 'Cause the description clearly says "...you must have as many vassals as possible of your own dynasty. Have them retain the title duke or higher." It says "dynasty members". NOT "dynasty members whom Lewa263 would call Princes". "Princes of Wales" is just a flavour title. It's irrelevant what you think princes are.

As I've kept playing, them being women continues to be the only pattern I can find. Needless to say, they're all married matrilinially. I'd ask Paradox to please either fix the description for clarity or otherwise fix female dynasty members not counting towards the score, as the description includes them, too. If I somehow misread the pattern and it's not because they're women, but because of some other reason that just so happened to coincide with only female members, then please tell me.

 

[Lewa263]

I answered your question. I agree that Paradox should have included the requirement that the vassals be male in the description. I assume that we are meant to take Princes literally, because women do not count toward the challenge, as can be easily verified by playing with Gender Equality set to All and landing one of Llewelyn's female cousins.

 

[y8r4G0xz3fFkXdGXyJ4V]

For the wording of the Princes challenge, I think it would have helped to clarify it was the total number of simultaneous dukes at a given time, rather than a cumulative number which could build up over time. I misinterpreted it up to the point that one of my son's died and the number went down.