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joeTaco

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One line summary of your issue
Conclave: Evolved childhood traits are hidden

Game Version
3.3.2

What expansions do you have installed?

The Reapers Due,
Conclave,
Horse Lords,
Way of Life,
Charlemagne,
Sons of Abraham,
The Old Gods,
The Republic,
Legacy of Rome,
Sword of Islam,
Holy Fury

Do you have mods enabled?
No

Please explain your issue is in as much detail as possible.
When setting a teenager's Education Focus, we are presented with a helpful dialog showing us the Childhood Traits which increase/decrease this teenager's Focus chances. The Traits are in green for "increase" and red for "decrease". The dialog + tooltips suggest this is how the probability is calculated and encourages the player to select a Focus on this basis.

This is inconsistent with the actual mechanic, which takes into account "hidden" Childhood Traits - that is, Traits which have already "evolved" into regular adult traits. Contrary to the dialog, the game takes these evolved traits into account behind the scenes. Therefore I have to go look at a list of which traits evolve into what every time I choose an Education Focus, so I can mentally add them in to what the game is showing me. Eventually I guess I'll memorize em.

The dialog should include evolved traits in green and/or red just like it includes Childhood Traits. As it stands the mechanic is impossible to figure out in-game, and once you figure it out it just adds busywork and alt-tabbing.

Steps to reproduce the issue.
1. Load Conclave
2. Find a teenager with some adult traits
3. Go to Education Focus dialog
4. Notice that only current Childhood Traits are shown, even though hidden flags are set for former Childhood Traits
5. When the teen gets his Education Trait, hidden flags are taken into account for the former Childhood Traits

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/conclave-education.1282327/

https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Education_(Conclave)#Education_focus

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