Colonization

[SonofWinter]

I have two provinces, both have 10+ people. But rather than using my Roman/Roman province to settle the neighboring province, I'm getting the Celtic/Roman province. My governor of the Roman/Roman province has higher Civ rating in his province and bigger finesse. But the other province is .3 population higher. Shouldn't the finesse value determine who gets to colonize the next colony?

 

[King]

We went for population because it means you should be able to colonise a little faster that way.

 

[unmerged(9515)]

Any way you could add a check to see if a same culture province is available and always trump that over the foreign ones? It takes a lot longer to get the culture conversion event than it does for the population to go up.

 

[unmerged(85507)]

I think you should either be able to choose the province from where colonists come - even if it is an interior province.
Or colonists should automatically come from a province with your culture - if there is one that has enough population.
Or colonies simply always get your state religion and culture.

By now too many games as Rome depend on luck. If Etruria or Bononia convert to Roman culture early enough you can spread Roman culture, which can give you enormous manpower and other benefits.
Otherwise you end up spreading Etruscan culture (or whatever) and have to wait that some provinces here and there convert after a certain time.
It does not feel right that chance can make such a great difference or that you have to wait that your frontier provinces convert before you can want to move on.

Now I have a lucky game where I can spread Roman culture into Northern and Southern Europe because Bononia and Scodra (former Illyria) converted early enough. But I fear this will be my only game as Rome with such exceptional luck.

 

[flimo]

if population should determine who colonizes this must be a bug
im playing macedonia
i own scodra and dalmatia, wich both border ditiones
in dalmatia both the religion and the culture event has fired
in scodra only the religion one
so offcourse i wanted to colonize with dalmatia
there where other provinces i could colonize with dalmatia
but since dalmatia had 3,5 citisens 4,8 freemen and 3,5 slaves totalling 11,8 population
and scodra had 4,5 citisens 3,6 freemen and 2,0 slaves totalling 10,1 population
i was(after reading this thread) sure that dalmatia would be the one to send colonists
but nope they where taken from scodra instead
so its either a bug or it only looks at citisens when determining who colonizes
anyway no biggie ill reboot and colonize another province while waiting for scodra to get the culture event

edit: bah disregard this
dalmatia only had 49,9 civ rating
when the culture event fired i got a little trigger happy i guess

 

[SonofWinter]

We went for population because it means you should be able to colonise a little faster that way.

Just played Selucids again, tried to colonize Arabia, next to Selucia. Went Phoenician/Phoenician. Selucia has more people than any other province bordering Arabia, what are the rules on which culture and which religion will be settled? Oh, and Selucia has 70 civilization rating, vs. all the other bordering provinces which have 55% or 60%. This is buggy.

Retried it again, this time I colonized Zamah, so that I'd have 2 Greek/Greek vs. 2 Phoenecian/Phoenecian, no dice, it still came up Pho/Pho. And Mesopotamia, which is the 5th province, already has Greek religion, due to my adjusting the conversion times. So 3/5 Greek religions and 2/5 Greek cultures and it doesn't matter.

 

[podcat]

yup, bug. it picks the first matching province for culture now. Should be the one with highest civ. rating. This is going on the bug list.