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john.kilmartin5

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OK so as Yugoslavia I managed produce a surplus of industrial goods, (yay) but then being a quirky and rather enthusiastic little nation we also ended up with the highest GDP on mainland Europe as a direct consequence.... thus civilian constuption has sky rocketed and despite me manipulating the domestic price of goods, the economy continues to grow.... in some ways this is a major success story, however there is now the major issue of electricity I'm 6 million megawatts behind demand and am in the process of developing commercial nuclear power in order to try and solve the crisis BUT.... how much can a nuclear plant generate and is it really worth the time and effort to develop this tech?
 
Well yeah. Unless you got alot of oil or coal. I don't know what recourses Yoguslavia have but I think it might be worth it. You should also check your inflation... Just a tips.
 
how do I do that? It was displayed in the economy tab in supreme ruler 2020, but I don't see it in cold war... plus domestic prices don't seem even seem to be slowing growth (not that it really matters)... with free movement of Yugoslav citizens throughout the eastern block, Russia, Turkey, the middle east and now Italy they can slip across the border and buy cheaper goods else where lol
 
Raising taxes or lowering spending, especially social, tends to do a lot to slow the economy down. Scrapping unneeded production facilities, improving supply efficiency and reducing production of unneeded or unprofitable goods is a good way to save labour and thus massively slow down the economy, which is what I would recommend.
 
Yeah unemployment is hovering around 3%, and I set my taxes up as follows... 17% sales tax, 20% low income and 30% High income, 25% Small Business and 30% Corporation tax, right now demand out strips production on every front so I'm building lots of coal mines and power stations, and then industry goods factories with an aim to hit 1.5 million production by 1965 (that should pay for construction + allow for export)... Yugoslavia does make a fair amount of cast by selling arms to China which is locked in an epic war with NATO (and thanks to Yugoslavia buying the Saracen Infantry design from the UK,and then selling the design + manufactured units to China. The Chinese are starting to push Nato back (YaY), we also export aircraft to china so all in all its a real money maker, however back to my original question what is the production capacity of a nuclear power plant?
 
Yeah unemployment is hovering around 3%, and I set my taxes up as follows... 17% sales tax, 20% low income and 30% High income, 25% Small Business and 30% Corporation tax, right now demand out strips production on every front so I'm building lots of coal mines and power stations, and then industry goods factories with an aim to hit 1.5 million production by 1965 (that should pay for construction + allow for export)... Yugoslavia does make a fair amount of cast by selling arms to China which is locked in an epic war with NATO (and thanks to Yugoslavia buying the Saracen Infantry design from the UK,and then selling the design + manufactured units to China. The Chinese are starting to push Nato back (YaY), we also export aircraft to china so all in all its a real money maker, however back to my original question what is the production capacity of a nuclear power plant?

Doesn't it say how much it can produce when you hover your arrow over it?
 
I've not finished developing the tech yet... which is why I'm asking I mean if Nuclear is the holy grail of power production then great... if its not much better than coal... what's the point? I may as well invest the time and money in other things... also yet they are low taxes yet it works... I have 186% health care, 120%education and a little over 100% in every thing else,and a surplus that hovers around the 2,000 million mark (though I keep spending it on bulk purchases of industrial goods to under pin my infrastructure building..
 
I am actually not sure whether they are economically feasible in SR CW, while they are surely better than "other" or new hydro plants. In 2020, coal and petroleum was immensely more cost-efficient. But I would go for nuclear power just for flavour - just don't go overboard.
 
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Well its official, I have commercial nuclear power (oddly enough before USA.. may be I'll sell them the plans) so was it worth it? Well a coal plant has a max output of 1,630,000 MWh, costs $65.22m, takes 80 days to build, and requires 16,430t of industry goods. Compared with a nuclear plan which produces 3,260,000 MWh(2x Coal plants), Costs $1468m (22.5x more expensive), takes 180 days (2.3x longer to build), and requires 129,863t of ind goods(8x the amount of industrial goods). (but only needs a a smaller amount of uranium to run (by my estimate 4 plants to each uranium mine, as opposed to 2 coal plants to each coal mine) OK so was it worth it? Well I guess I've saved labour in not having to build another two mines to support my 4 nuclear plants and I also know that at least one tech advance will increase my max output by 5% giving me a max generation capacity of 3,423,000 per plant, but the number crunching certainly points to coal being cheaper and faster to build, however its only 1962 so more tech down the line may mean that nuclear has more potential to develop where as coal is pretty much as good as it gets. so there it is.. still there is some satisfaction in knowing that we beat the US at something... as a side question is there any way to speed up space research or is the whole space race pretty much down to who started researching the tech first?
 
Fusion is where its at.. until then for pure cost effectiveness coal is king. Of course all are viable.. and what resources you have access to is often more important than just cost. (if you're playing the saudis coal just isn't an option unless you wanna be reliant on imports)


As to speeding up research. Boost your research and education spending.
 
Well its official, I have commercial nuclear power (oddly enough before USA.. may be I'll sell them the plans) so was it worth it? Well a coal plant has a max output of 1,630,000 MWh, costs $65.22m, takes 80 days to build, and requires 16,430t of industry goods. Compared with a nuclear plan which produces 3,260,000 MWh(2x Coal plants), Costs $1468m (22.5x more expensive), takes 180 days (2.3x longer to build), and requires 129,863t of ind goods(8x the amount of industrial goods). (but only needs a a smaller amount of uranium to run (by my estimate 4 plants to each uranium mine, as opposed to 2 coal plants to each coal mine) OK so was it worth it? Well I guess I've saved labour in not having to build another two mines to support my 4 nuclear plants and I also know that at least one tech advance will increase my max output by 5% giving me a max generation capacity of 3,423,000 per plant, but the number crunching certainly points to coal being cheaper and faster to build, however its only 1962 so more tech down the line may mean that nuclear has more potential to develop where as coal is pretty much as good as it gets. so there it is.. still there is some satisfaction in knowing that we beat the US at something... as a side question is there any way to speed up space research or is the whole space race pretty much down to who started researching the tech first?

If time, initial capital outlay, industrial goods, and uranium are all in plentiful supply, then building nuclear plants can result in getting your people loads of cheap electricity without trashing employment and inflation statistics. However, it's likely to be centuries, rather than decades, before you realize a profit on your investment.

The main benefit to nuclear power is that you need 1/3rd to 1/4th the number of people working in the plants compared to coal power, and roughly half as many people working in the mines, so you can really take the edge off of overextending your work force and running chronic inflation over 20%, which is what usually burns out an economy in the latest beta builds. When inflation drops, costs to do everything drop everywhere, and savings can be realized in every industry and department. As the US or USSR I try to rapidly scrap power plants and use the industrial goods created to AT ALL TIMES have roughly 10 nuclear plants in construction until I fully convert my economy by ~ the mid 60s. As mentioned, this is less about saving money on power, as it is about keeping other commodities profitable to produce for export as my GDP/c rockets.

If you are playing as, say, Afghanistan, build coal. Nukes are for the uber-developed big boys.