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I have a vague feeling the function of converting your CK game to EU2 game is going to be cut. Beyond the problem of desiding who gets what territory there is the fact that to convert the map more tags will be needed as there could be a whole bunch of new/not meant to survive countries.... So who thinks this feature will stay?
 
Personally I don't care at all about this feature, first because odds are I'll never fully complete a game of CK. Never completed a full game of EUI/II either, furthest I got was 1720. Second, on the off-chance I do finish a game and want to continue it, I'll probably use the EUII scenario editor to make an appropiate map.
 
Can't say I've finished a whole lot of EU2 GCs neither but if the conversion feature makes it to the final game, I'll certainly use it. Maybe a dynamic tag transfer might take care of the odd countries which survive to 1453 but not sure how the monarch and event lists would be handled...

The possibility of playing an epic 1066-1819 MP campaign over LAN with friends certainly does have an appeal for me :)
 
Lo, Snowball, virgin goats I do sacrifice unto thee...

The mere thought of trying to hold the French together so that they're a respectable poweri n 1419; And then taking the English to rip them to shreds; makes me all happy and swuooshy with anticipation.
 
I want it !

I want it !

This is the whole point !

I want to be the builder of a grand nation from start to finish !

Cat
 
I tend to agree with Bob & Caesar. It would be a nice feature, but certainly not necessary, and not worth holding up development or release, at least in my opinion.

If I manage to hold the HRE together as I plan to, by 1453, Ill still be king of Germany, Italy, & Burgundy; Ill integrate the Kingdom of Sicily into the Empire as Henry VI and Frederick II sought to do, and Ill also keep my hands on Outremer where Frederick II and sons let it slip away.

I may also be able to fulfill Henry VI's plan to conquer the Byzantine Empire, or failing that, to lead the 4th Crusade and do the same. Needless to say, the Turks wont be taking Constantinople from me. When the Hundred Years War breaks out, I'll ally with England and we'll divide up France.

Point is if I accomplish all or even some of this, I'll be starting EU2 with an almost ridiculous situation. I'll already own half of Europe and have completely changed the course of history, so a good many of the EU2 historical events will have no place in my game. For that matter, neither will many of the EU2 states, monarchs, and so on. At that point, Id rather just start playing EU2 from scratch!
 
Originally posted by BarbarossaHRE

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Point is if I accomplish all or even some of this, I'll be starting EU2 with an almost ridiculous situation. I'll already own half of Europe and have completely changed the course of history, so a good many of the EU2 historical events will have no place in my game. For that matter, neither will many of the EU2 states, monarchs, and so on. At that point, Id rather just start playing EU2 from scratch!

I think that's exactly the problem. When you play a major country in EU2, around 1700 or even earlier if you're aggressive you have such an advantage that to continue the game is virtually pointless. Playing CK you could end up being that powerful, that you will be the only country to colonize the new world.

Additionally I wonder what happens to prestige and piety you accumulated during CK when you switch to EU2? My guess would be that it simply disappears, rendering it completely pointless to struggle for it. I too think that developement and release of CK shouldn't be delayed once this is the only serious issue left.
 
Well, i would personally enjoy the possibility very much. Even if i wouldn't use it, it would give me a nice feeling that continuation is possible:)
 
Originally posted by Winkelried


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Additionally I wonder what happens to prestige and piety you accumulated during CK when you switch to EU2? My guess would be that it simply disappears, rendering it completely pointless to struggle for it. I too think that developement and release of CK shouldn't be delayed once this is the only serious issue left.

Piety and prestige could be computed into relations between countries.:)
 
all the game data will apparently be stored in a save file similar to an EU2 save file, so it would be easily feasable to have a separate .exe that converts a CK save game to an EU2 one. That said, if the conversion tool is causing problems, it might be best to release the game without it and then implement it in a patch. The conversion tool is not a necessary component to the game, and (at least at the rate I played EU/EU2) the conversion tool wouldn't get used much for the first 2 weeks you own the game. I suspect all of us would prefer getting the game earliest and waiting a bit for the conversion tool rather than getting everything later.
 
If this feature makes it in I forsee myself using once or twice, not more than that. So I don´t care much if it´s in or not. It´s one of those "cool" features that aren´t really that cool after all.
 
Originally posted by tuna

The possibility of playing an epic 1066-1819 MP campaign over LAN with friends certainly does have an appeal for me :)

You and your friends must have a lot of free time. :)
 
I'd like to see it kept, again, unless it means significant delays. I guess I must be a heretic or something, but I almost always finish my GCs and would definitely play CK till the bitter end AND use the game conversion feature.