Could this be considered a bug at all?

[Sleight of Hand]

I think the general consensus in this thread is that my only son being cut off from the succession doesn't really make sense.

Please bear in mind that he married reguarly and was not a bishop of any kind, but simply because I had high crown authority in England my heir was removed from the succession, which we don't really think makes sense. Also, Scotland did not have high crown authority so I do not understand why (from their point of view) he should be treated as going outside of the realm to inherit -- he was not a Scot, a member of the Scottish royal family (or any of their ducal families) but for some reason was still totally excluded from the succession despite being his father's only son and male heir. He was simply married to a duchess whose liege was the king of Scotland, and it was a regular marriage so their children were Plantagenets anyway.

Unfortunately I can not provide a saved game as I have since rectified the situation by cheating -- I re-loaded a few times and managed to re-marry and have a few infant sons before dying.

 

[londoner247]

I would say it looks like a bug.

My guess is that the code looks to see who his liege is today when deciding whether he is inside or outisde your realm rather than looking to see who his liege would be after any theoretical inheritance. If his liege were an Emperor then I would have no problem with him being disinherited but because his liege is a King if he were to inherit your titles then he would become a King at which point he would be of equal rank to his former liege and so have his own realm (your old realm) meaning no foreign inheritance issue.

There is an interesting side issue here though. Let's assume Paradox agree that this is a bug and fix it so that he can inherit the Kingdom of England. Let's then go one stage further and assume that Scotland also has High Crown Authority. Should he (or rather his children) be excluded from inheriting the County of Northumberland since to do so would take that out of Scotland?

 

[Sleight of Hand]

You're totally correct to raise that issue -- it's certainly an interesting one.

The funny thing is that because in my original saved game (as mentioned in that thread) he managed to have an infant son before dying, he was the senior Plantagenet line. And also, in my current saved game even though I have three young sons to carry on the dynasty (assuming they don't die) they are still only Henry's younger half-brothers, so if he'd had a son who married and had children they would be the senior Plantagenet line even though all of them would be excluded from the succession. It doesn't make sense.

I realize it's complicated but I suppose the nub of the issue is I do not understand why the sole male Plantagenet heir -- and a rightful heir at that, with no genuine legal competition -- would be totally removed from the succession simply for moving to his wife's court. Yes, her liege was the king of Scotland but that shouldn't matter. Why should that nulify his claim and thus end his entire dynasty?