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KostasL

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Following are links to download revealing saves from the Spartan-Aussie game.

Except of a revealing experience this one should prove quite entertaining, too. :)

Just click on the desired save to download and then click on FREE button in right bottom.

HAVE FUN. :)

Save of August 1, 1939 (a month before Danzig).
http://rapidshare.com/files/36178639/Aussies-3.eug

Save of February 1, 1940 (early Barbarossa).
http://rapidshare.com/files/36179214/Aussies-4.eug

Save of May 29, 1940 (KostasL first large encirclement of poor Axis_Comrade).
http://rapidshare.com/files/36179867/Aussies-5.eug

Save of September 25, 1940 (KostasL decides to annex Axis_Comrade as he does not deserve anything like Bitter Peace).
http://rapidshare.com/files/36180995/Aussies-6.eug

Last save of March 8, 1941 (Spartans accused for not being kind to Aussies, they could at least send some flowers to the girls with a few nice words, instead f..... them without mercy, all the time). :)
http://rapidshare.com/files/36177790/Aussies-8.eug
 
Kostasl. This is true testimony of how pathetic you are. Still running about and trying to glorify yourself. Even our most experienced Germany aggrees that you guys not only exploited your asses off because of your BS rules that allow you too. But there is simply no way you could have managed to get what you got without cheating. Sad sad sad little boys the lot of you. But please continue to post your self glorifying crap here at Paradox as it serves for a good laugh. Have a nice day :) . SE.
 
Axis Comrade said:
Kostasl. This is true testimony of how pathetic you are. Still running about and trying to glorify yourself. Even our most experienced Germany aggrees that you guys not only exploited your asses off because of your BS rules that allow you too. But there is simply no way you could have managed to get what you got without cheating. Sad sad sad little boys the lot of you. But please continue to post your self glorifying crap here at Paradox as it serves for a good laugh. Have a nice day :) . SE.

I just give the saves to the public. :cool:

My comments are quite moderate as people who saw the saves admit. :cool:

Anyone who sees the saves plus reads my most serious and detailed reply to your lies will not believe how could you post all these bullshit in this forum.
 
Axis Comrade said:
...because of your BS rules that allow you too.

Could somebody please explain to me why would anybody knowingly join such a game in the first place?
 
KostasL said:
I just give the saves to the public. :cool:

My comments are quite moderate as people who saw the saves admit. :cool:

Anyone who sees the saves plus reads my most serious and detailed reply to your lies will not believe how could you post all these bullshit in this forum.

And how do I know you havn't just edit away those parts where you are exploiting?
 
Look guys, I know this is really exciting for all of you, and I must admit I have been following this in a casual way, but there is just no way that I am going to go through all the effort of downloading the saves of games I had nothing to do with.

The whole thing is a bit silly. Now it is ridiculous.

Kostasl, I can see why your pride is hurt by the public exposure of all this, but really selling militia to Canada and expediting forces to allies in order to reduce your TC load so that your units move faster and looking at saves are things that in the first two cases are definitely exploits (meaning to "exploit" the failings of the AI to get advantages by doing things that are unrealistic in the terms of game, which is WW2 strategy and politics) and in the last just plain ole cheating by the commonly accepted community standards of multiplayer play.

Now you may think since the AI has these failings and we can be clever by taking advantage of them, and in the absolutes sense they are not exploits or cheating because they are allowed by the game, and when not explicitly prohibited by the rules the players there is an arguement to be made in support of your position. But the fact remains that there is a gentlemen's code of conduct which is expected by the community, and it is generally understood by all. I am sure you are a good guy and all that, but Axis selling shitty units to Canada does not fall into the standard of conduct most of the community expect from other HOI players -- though it is also a hilarious prank to be sure.

BTW: That is one of the better rules sets for this game I have seen, GJ on that.
 
Cueball said:
Look guys, I know this is really exciting for all of you, and I must admit I have been following this in a casual way, but there is just no way that I am going to go through all the effort of downloading the saves of games I had nothing to do with.

The whole thing is a bit silly. Now it is ridiculous.

Kostasl, I can see why your pride is hurt by the public exposure of all this, but really selling militia to Canada and expediting forces to allies in order to reduce your TC load so that your units move faster and looking at saves are things that in the first two cases are definitely exploits (meaning to "exploit" the failings of the AI to get advantages by doing things that are unrealistic in the terms of game, which is WW2 strategy and politics) and in the last just plain ole cheating by the commonly accepted community standards of multiplayer play.

Now you may think since the AI has these failings and we can be clever by taking advantage of them, and in the absolutes sense they are not exploits or cheating because they are allowed by the game, and when not explicitly prohibited by the rules the players there is an arguement to be made in support of your position. But the fact remains that there is a gentlemen's code of conduct which is expected by the community, and it is generally understood by all. I am sure you are a good guy and all that, but Axis selling shitty units to Canada does not fall into the standard of conduct most of the community expect from other HOI players -- though it is also a hilarious prank to be sure.

BTW: That is one of the better rules sets for this game I have seen, GJ on that.

You speak as if you have not read my reply and you also say that you don't want to see the saves. :confused:

But you DO express an opinion. :cool:

I guess it's your right. :)


Everybody seems willing to teach me how to be decent player and person or just personally attack me. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Is there anybody there to see that Axis_Comrade, Mighty-G and Geofactor posted lies in this forum ? They already admitted they have done so. I have seen nobody bother. Where is a gentlemen's code of conduct which is expected by the community, Cueball ? Who showed such thing ?
 
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Phadishar said:
And how do I know you havn't just edit away those parts where you are exploiting?

Months ago, some people got the saves.

Aussies also got saves that gave or can give to anybody i suppose.

It is very easy for anybody to see the truth. My detailed reply plus the saves, say it all.
 
I did read your explanation. That is where I found out why you expeditioned your forces to Axis Allies. Your reason might not have been to supply exploit, but to TC exploit. It is still an exploit.

As for all this stuff about edits and such, I have expressed no opinion. And I am not going to.

I hear the Aussie French player moved all his elite units to Libberville to save them from Vichy. That too is a gamey tactic, if that is true.

It's not my issue, and I wasn't going to say anything, but you have been bombarding the board with very detailed discussion about a game that most of us could not care less about, and so it has come to our attention.

I have read the majority of your posts, and theirs, and since you insist on making this everybodies business by posting over and over again, I have voiced my opinion: selling militia to Canada is bad form, pure and simple.

I suggest you delete those saves from your hard drive and move on.
 
Cueball said:
Kostasl, I can see why your pride is hurt by the public exposure of all this, but really selling militia to Canada and expediting forces to allies in order to reduce your TC load so that your units move faster and looking at saves are things that in the first two cases are definitely exploits (meaning to "exploit" the failings of the AI to get advantages by doing things that are unrealistic in the terms of game, which is WW2 strategy and politics) and in the last just plain ole cheating by the commonly accepted community standards of multiplayer play.

Now you may think since the AI has these failings and we can be clever by taking advantage of them, and in the absolutes sense they are not exploits or cheating because they are allowed by the game, and when not explicitly prohibited by the rules the players there is an arguement to be made in support of your position. But the fact remains that there is a gentlemen's code of conduct which is expected by the community, and it is generally understood by all. I am sure you are a good guy and all that, but Axis selling shitty units to Canada does not fall into the standard of conduct most of the community expect from other HOI players -- though it is also a hilarious prank to be sure.

BTW: That is one of the better rules sets for this game I have seen, GJ on that.

I replied to all above in a detailed and convincing way. Noone can deny the truth of a single word of mine. I speak with facts and i can prove my spokings.

You seem to take it personal. Why is that ? I am just someone accused false accusations and i got my reputation spoiled.

What is your motivation, anyway ? :confused:
 
I wan't convinced. Selling militia to Canada is extremely gamey. Even though it is an extremely funny joke in its way.
 
Cueball said:
I did read your explanation. That is where I found out why you expeditioned your forces to Axis Allies. Your reason might not have been to supply exploit, but to TC exploit. It is still an exploit.

If you see the save you will understand. I did not need this to annex Russia.
Aussie fate was sealed.

As for all this stuff about edits and such, I have expressed no opinion. And I am not going to.

Aussie already admitted there was no edit at all. But noone bothered to askthem why did they post such a monstrous thing at all.

I hear the Aussie French player moved all his elite units to Libberville to save them from Vichy. That too is a gamey tactic, if that is true..

People do many things like this.


I have read the majority of your posts, and theirs, and since you insist on making this everybodies business by posting over and over again, I have voiced my opinion: selling militia to Canada is bad form, pure and simple..

Please, have in mind that we don't have the multiplayer experience one might think. We played 3-4 Doomsday multis only, before we faced Aussie team. Our rules might not have been perfect and are still improving. We accepted to ban this, from session one. Why are we accused for this ? And i remind you that reality is clear in my post.

I suggest you delete those saves from your hard drive and move on.

I will keep the saves in my hard drive because this was the perfect Doomsday 1.3a Axis game. :)

And also because all the truth about the Spartan-Aussie game lies in them. :cool
 
KostasL said:
People do many things like this.

That is why we must be firm and not do any gamey stuff. Because if one person does it, then the other guys will do it, and pretty soon the whole thing is out of control, and we might as well not play a WW2 strategic simulation, and play Warcraft 3 instead, which is a game which is pure fantasy, so it doesn't matter if people do gamey shit.
 
Cueball said:
That is why we must be firm and not do any gamey stuff. Because if one person does it, then the other guys will do it, and pretty soon the whole thing is out of control, and we might as well not play a WW2 strategic simulation, and play Warcraft 3 instead, which is a game which is pure fantasy, so it doesn't matter if people do gamey shit.

no one I play with does these things...
 
Good, and that is the way it should be.
 
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