Dragons are way to weak

[Lordof]

First of all, why in the war of conquest only Aegon is able to deploy the dragons? Visenya and her other wife couldn't

Second of all, why the nerf? Now Aegon with an army of 8000 was completely butchered by the combined forces of the westerland and the reach. what the hell?

this is 0.6 btw

 

[Xoatly]

Visenya and Rhaenys can deploy their dragons, though.

 

[Vortex_13]

I agree they seemed to have been nerfed a bit too much. They were an instant win button before but now seem to be almost useless. Needs to be a middle ground somewhere.

 

[yezhanquan]

I guess convert them from traits to actual characters had some quirks. Can the devs let us know where the data for dragon bonuses are kept so that we can tweak them?

 

[unmerged(216593)]

You can change the +martial to the Dragon Rider trait to make it a larger advantage. It's currently +10.

 

[Kapitalisti]

I don't know, tried the new version and the dragons still kicked ass and burned bubblegum. There should be a lot more damage done when using them in sieges, had to try a few times to get the "right" result when burning Harrenhall.

 

[Wilstrup]

Honestly, I think they are exactly as powered as they should be. Balerion is pretty much god, I easily won Aegons conquest. As it goes for the other younger dragons it is even stated in canon lore that they aren't as powerfull as they were in the earlier version. In the Queen and Princess story, the Targaeryans made great effort to recruit the Lords Paramount. Armies was also the reason why Aegon managed to "win" even though he had many fewer dragons than Rhaenyra.

 

[highsis]

Because they were absurdly powerful before. Now I think it's appropriate.

Before the nerf, 00000 ruler in stead of Aegon could conquer 7 kingdoms no problem. That was a joke.

 

[Soladept]

the strongest thing about dragons that remains is the superior combat tactics, and army/siege attacks are still useful if you want to risk wounding or maiming your dragon, you just cant get cocky with dragons anymore, just treasure them as invaluable artillery

 

[kvk]

Yeah I like them a lot more now.

 

[Lordof]

But the thing is I can't do jacks### with aegon no more. I got my 2000 troops, that's fine. I have my dragons. And then the lann and the gardener joint force, okay, just as expected.

But seeing my army completely decimated because the morale damage isn't fast enough to race against the number of the enemy troops is a joke.

 

[Darrow]

I like dragons more as well now.. but he's right for the Conquest scenario, Aegon just can't do it alone.

 

[yezhanquan]

Maybe, it is time to adopt a slow and steady approach. Declare war on one region at a time, make the king bend the knee, then move on. I'm pretty sure Aegon didn't declare war on multiple kingdoms at the same time.

 

[Raczynski]

Maybe, it is time to adopt a slow and steady approach. Declare war on one region at a time, make the king bend the knee, then move on. I'm pretty sure Aegon didn't declare war on multiple kingdoms at the same time.

The events force you to declare war and the Reach and the Westerlands are often allied.

 

[WingedLion14]

I managed to win as Aegon pretty easily. Only declared war when the popups came to declare war. Went stormlands - Reach - Westerlands - Dorne - Iron Islands - Vale - North. Dorne and Vale surrendered immediately without a fight. What I did was before selecting a country to declare war on, I would raise the levies of my newly-conquered region to replace my losses. Once I got rolling it was a piece of cake.

 

[yezhanquan]

The events force you to declare war and the Reach and the Westerlands are often allied.

From the wiki:

King Mern IX of the Reach and King Loren I of the Rock agreed to join forces and throw the invader back into the sea. The two armies met in the Reach, where the combined might of the Reach and the Rock broke Aegon's army. That was until Aegon and his sisters took to the sky with their dragons. Near four thousand men died that day, including King Mern IX.

So yeah, you're with canon on that. But, what WL mentioned is important: Remember to raise the levies of your new vassals.

 

[Lordof]

which still doesn't make sense, cos aegon forces doesn't rely on the numbers of their troops. They rely solely on their dragons. (except for the stormlands, but that is different case)

Remember, dragons are meant to be overpowered. GRRM meant them to be the nuke of asoiaf so it doesn't make sense for them to be something that isn't power changing at all. A vassal should be afraid of a dragonlord, but now it's a number game. Any fool with an army could beat a dragon now, so the targaryen hegemony over westeros doesn't even make sense anymore.

The dragons ruled seven kingdoms, the dragons slayed the mighty old ghiscari empire, the dragons conquered and forged valyrian empire

the dragons having to choose their battle carefully over some petty kingdoms that is off the radar in the first place? what. the. hell.

If Aegon have to choose his fight carefully and won't be able to stand against the seven kingdoms combined, why would he even bother?

 

[yezhanquan]

The dragons did not conquer Dorne. Never forget that. And since the mod cannot simulate the tactics the Dornishmen used to run circles around the dragons, nerfing them is the next best thing. Also, the Field of Fire was the only time that all three dragons flew together for the grand immolation.

Not all the continent had to be taken by conquest, some regions and houses actively supported House Targaryen and others submitted voluntarily.

The High Septon then anointed Aegon and acknowledged his place as King of Westeros, destroying much of the remaining opposition among the Westerosi people.

Even after the Conquest, and before the Dance (meaning there were dragons around), the Faith Militant Uprising could not be quelled by dragons.

 

[yezhanquan]

Visenya and Rhaenys can deploy their dragons, though.

How do you do that? I've only managed to get Aegon to deploy his, even when the sisters are also leading troops in the field.

 

[locustgate]

How do you do that? I've only managed to get Aegon to deploy his, even when the sisters are also leading troops in the field.

Maybe they have to be in the center, I haven't played yet.