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Planning to play from the earliest time in history (EU Rome) up to the latest one (HoI3) while waiting for EUIV. EU rome worth a go? I got the game lying around but I only get to play EU3 since I got both games at the same time. Would also like to get some info for people who got Sengoku (got it with my blue coins after pre-ordering EUIV)
 
This is just my personal opinion, but I really, really disliked EU Rome. It was the first paradox game I got, since when I first saw the summary, it seems like something that I was really looking out for, open world sandbox game in a interesting time period. I really wanted to like it but I just can't. It wasn't until I think I saw in game manual somewhere that said something like "unlike other eu games where the take place in the entire world, Rome confines you to the region of europe" that I went and spotted out Eu3 and found it to be considerably easier to get into.

In my opinion, even Crusader Kings (the first one) is better than Rome (and I personally found the first ck to be a bit bland compared to eu3, although CK2 was very fun).

I HAD attempted to get back into EU Rome a few times. But having played Eu3 and Ck2, it's nearly impossible to get used to the tedious mechanics there. Although if you have the patience, you might find something that I didn't.
 
cacra said:
do you mean you are going to do a savegame convert from each game? Because that would be epic.
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I wanted to but I heard problems about the older save converters. I wanted to do an epic one though. Too bad only something like CK gives me some reason to roleplay and I doubt I could go up to HoI though but I guess I could see myself playing at least up to vicky.

fleetothemoon said:
This is just my personal opinion, but I really, really disliked EU Rome. It was the first paradox game I got, since when I first saw the summary, it seems like something that I was really looking out for, open world sandbox game in a interesting time period. I really wanted to like it but I just can't. It wasn't until I think I saw in game manual somewhere that said something like "unlike other eu games where the take place in the entire world, Rome confines you to the region of europe" that I went and spotted out Eu3 and found it to be considerably easier to get into.

In my opinion, even Crusader Kings (the first one) is better than Rome (and I personally found the first ck to be a bit bland compared to eu3, although CK2 was very fun).

I HAD attempted to get back into EU Rome a few times. But having played Eu3 and Ck2, it's nearly impossible to get used to the tedious mechanics there. Although if you have the patience, you might find something that I didn't.
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At first I was like "only europe?" and it was a big deal for me but my main concern is if it is worth going back to. I had it but never really played it like EU3 though. I won't mind going back if its really worth it. I got the disc here and got the expac from GG a long time ago. I know nothing beats the epicness of EU 3 and its scope though.
 
towerbooks3192 said:
Planning to play from the earliest time in history (EU Rome) up to the latest one (HoI3) while waiting for EUIV. EU rome worth a go? I got the game lying around but I only get to play EU3 since I got both games at the same time. Would also like to get some info for people who got Sengoku (got it with my blue coins after pre-ordering EUIV)
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My suggestion is play EU3 with the 399AD mod instead of Rome. Rome is pretty broken IMO, and at least with the 399AD mod it goes to 821 and you could try to transfer that over to CK2. Then EU3 again.
 
Pete0714 said:
My suggestion is play EU3 with the 399AD mod instead of Rome. Rome is pretty broken IMO, and at least with the 399AD mod it goes to 821 and you could try to transfer that over to CK2. Then EU3 again.
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Never knew there was a CK2 to EU3 converter? I know there will be one for EUIV. I am hoping paradox will continue with this or even release EU Rome II though and even get a EU4 to Vicky 3 converter.

Will try to reinstall it on the morrow after work and see how it goes. I am playing my farewell game as Muscowy in EU3 with the nerfed manpower and its really noticeable.
 
You'll probably find it has everything you hate about EU3 combat, but in spades. Its not only a port of a WW2 mechanic to an era where combat was fundamentally different, its a borked port of a horribly buggy WW2 mechanic.

The other areas of the original game are well conceived. It treats Hellenic and Carthagian societies as clones of Rome, but at least they are clones of Rome rather than clones of 19th century Sweden. Unfortunately they spent all their time on tweaking the combat system and never polished the other systems decently in the patches and if anything the gameplay gets worse with the patching as bugs are removed but the balance consequences of removing the bugs aren't dealt with. I reckon the most fun version was 1.0 or 1.1. Rather like Vic1. There were horrible bugs in the economic model (2+2=22 rather than 2+2=4 in a lot of places), but 1.2 was boring compared to 1.0

I wasted a couple of days trying to get into Gold/VV, and I'll never load it up again. Its extra complications making the game more like modern society rather than ancient society. I'll take sacrificing period accuracy for the sake of simplicity and playability, but not when they are sacrificed too. I'll take a political system that makes me feel like the world is 19th century Sweden for Vic2, but not EU Rome.

The thing you'll probably miss most in the earlier games is the tooltip detail, but if that doesn't worry you and you can remember the ways to exploit the daft combat mechanics so that the silly effects help you rather than enrage you, Rome remains playable.
 
towerbooks3192 said:
Never knew there was a CK2 to EU3 converter? I know there will be one for EUIV. I am hoping paradox will continue with this or even release EU Rome II though and even get a EU4 to Vicky 3 converter.

Will try to reinstall it on the morrow after work and see how it goes. I am playing my farewell game as Muscowy in EU3 with the nerfed manpower and its really noticeable.
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There is an unofficial version of CK2 to EU3 but I never tried it to vouch for it. I also will say that I can't vouch for converting the 399 mod to Ck2, as the provinces are different in the mod than in vanilla EU3. However, instead of converting to CK2 from 399, you could at least still potentially play a nation in 399 mod to achieve the goal of reaching the end of the game with, say, CK2 867AD borders and power, then continue in CK2, then whatever you end up with at the end of CK2 either port to EU3 or Eu4.
 
towerbooks3192 said:
Planning to play from the earliest time in history (EU Rome) up to the latest one (HoI3) while waiting for EUIV. EU rome worth a go? I got the game lying around but I only get to play EU3 since I got both games at the same time. Would also like to get some info for people who got Sengoku (got it with my blue coins after pre-ordering EUIV)
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I played my Gold Rome EU2 several times through -- It was fun.

Barbarians (Spain, celts) are just not playable, so you can't go for that super challenge.

The game has a different focus -- the point is managing the personalities of your empire.

Assigning different nobles to different positons -- moving army leaders from army to army -- managing your leadership development adds interest.

The game is most interesting and challenging as a republic.

Try as Pyrrus for a military challenge.

A few playthroughs, and it is tapped out though.
 
Hmm - never got into it when I bought it - reinstalling now to give it a 2nd chance. We shall see.
 
pascal said:
Very good definition of EU Rome. Me too i've tried hard to love it, and i love the period.
As much as i enjoy the other games from Paradox, this is the only one i regret to have bought.
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*sigh

If it has tedious mechanics (can't really remember much about it) then I guess I will just stick with CK2 and EU3 for now then. I am not touching my Scandinavia and will try to see how it goes once I convert it to EUIV. I will play a farewell EU3 game as Muscovy then. I have grown fond of Muscowy to Russia.
 
I love EU: Rome and I find games like CK2 and HoI3 very difficult to get into due to their complexity. Though admittedly I'm a sucker for almost anything to do with Ancient Rome.

But, unfortunately, I don't actually play EU: Rome anymore because the latest official patch has cascading alliances, which makes the game unplayable, and the beta patch (which removes them) is too unfinished and crashtastic. I think a lot of other players feel the same way -- there are cries all over the place to finish the patch because both the cascading alliances and the beta patch's crashing are so severe, but they're not going to because CK2 is making money and Rome isn't.
 
towerbooks3192 said:
Planning to play from the earliest time in history (EU Rome) up to the latest one (HoI3) while waiting for EUIV. EU rome worth a go? I got the game lying around but I only get to play EU3 since I got both games at the same time. Would also like to get some info for people who got Sengoku (got it with my blue coins after pre-ordering EUIV)
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If you like the EU series, or Paradox games in general, you probably would not be disappointed in Rome, especially at the price it probably has these days. Granted, it has some issues, and it isn't always historically accurate, but I find it enjoyable nonetheless.
 
I bought it for 5 Euro, played a long campaign as Rome and thoroughly enjoyed it. I hardly had any crashes (different if you choose a monarchy). I would recommend it to anyone who loves grand strategy games - especially for that price.
 
trcanberra said:
Hmm - never got into it when I bought it - reinstalling now to give it a 2nd chance. We shall see.
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Nope - still don't like it. Hard to say why - just felt a little empty and sterile compared to CK2 or what I have seen of EUIII.
 
I love Rome. It's the game that got me into Paradox games. First I tried CK1, didn't understand the interface and gameplay... abandoned. Later tried EU3 and found it too complicated. Later tried Rome, its simpler mechanics make finally 'get it'. After a full game as Pirrus, decides to give EU3 a second chance with my newfound knowledge, and loved it to death! (Funny thing, my first post-Rome EU3 game and I did a world conquest).

Recently I started a new Rome game and it was still enjoyable.
 
Frankly, after thirty years, if you can get a game to last that long, the game's mostly played itself. Egypt, Seleucia, Rome & Carthage are the only factions that ever do anything, and unlike EU or CK where taking a small nation can be fun, all you're going to do in EU:R is struggle to gain four or five provinces before one of the big players comes along and crushes you. Until we get a new Rome-era game, avoid it.
 
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