Hi. I think many ppl agree that there was some downfall of players that were loyal followers of the Europa Universalis series since EU1 and then following to EU2.
In EU3 we face a radical change in the game, mostly important on the UI.
The User Interface changed totally and too many new things came in and started to confuse the players that were used to the UI and the system of EU2 (the place of the buttons, bars, etc) and also the general base systems we were used to (the military engine, the colonization, etc) all that changed from EU2 to EU3, which led many people to keep playing on EU2 even if it's obsolete now and therefore we stayed apart from the rest of the community.
I really loved EU1 and EU2 and still play EU2. I've tried EU3 and I quitted after a couple of days playing because it's just way too confusing since everything changed.
Im afraid the era of EU1 and 2 ended for good, and it's a pitty because the game was lovely and now I can barely play its successors.
My suggestion to EU4 is to come back with the EU2 User Interface and the old systems that everyone was used to. EU3 just turned the game too confusing. If you have played EU1 and then got into EU2, you could play it the same way without having to adapt yourself and you could enjoy the new features without any worries at all. In EU3 I just dont recognize the game and I just close it and get back to EU2.
I'd love to see a continuation of the EU2, since III is not the sequel and so isn't IV. Or you could give the player to choose between classic EU interface or new EU interface so it could satisfy everyone, and on the same time we could enjoy the new features without having to lose time finding where things are and what they do.
EU2 was great and all I would ask for it was a major grafical upgrade like we can see in IV and a few more cool features that we have in III such as things to build in the provinces etc. The rest I totally disregard it.
My opinion towards III is that you tried to introduce many new things and that led to a completely different game in which it wouldnt favour the transiction of the community from EU2 to EU3.
If IV is just the same thing as III but with updates then I'll say it straight away that it doesn't motivate me to buy it, since III was just as confusing and different from the real Europa Universalis(1 and 2) we met in our childhood (at least some of us).
This is why the EU2 is still 'alive' on this forum and once in a while some ppl gather and do their Multiplayer sessions. One of the many things I asked to the people that were still playing EU2 while I tried to join in their campaign was: Why didnt you go to EU3 instead? (i hadnt tried the game yet). And they said, "because EU3 is completely different and confusing and we don't enjoy playing it, so we stay in EU2." There you get the point. Remember that sale numbers aren't always everything. People will buy a thing with the expectation of it to be better, but then they might just put the game on a corner and stop playing it for good after a while, and many times not even caring about or desiring the upcoming version of the game.
EU2 is very old and people still play it and were desiring a EU3, but then it came and it disapointed many people. These people came back to EU2, until they get fed up of playing it as there is no more sequels
All EU2 needed was a continuation of it (like u did with EU2 from EU1) with a major graphical upgrade like u did in EU3 and 4 while keep the base systems and just add a couple more details and options to things.
The upgrade from EU1 to EU2 was perfect. You made the changes just perfectly. From EU2 to EU3, it's a complete different game
Think about it, the EU oldschools will thank you accordingly
You're still in time to make Europa Universalis IV a EU2 sequel while keeping these lovely IV graphics; but if you dont want to do another EU title just to make a sequel of EU2, you could make an official patch then, making all these graphical upgrades and any other details you find interesting just like you did from EU1 to EU2.
Well I hope all this long repetitive post made you at least think and wonder about it XD.
Just so you know, I can't wait to start another campaign with those fellow EU2 players down there, as I dont have any desire at all to play EU3.. :-\ although I wish i had interest in it but the game itself doesnt pull me. If IV was like the text stated above you could be sure I'd buy and play it straight away and many oldschools would as well for sure.
Best Regards,
Diablosrouge
In EU3 we face a radical change in the game, mostly important on the UI.
The User Interface changed totally and too many new things came in and started to confuse the players that were used to the UI and the system of EU2 (the place of the buttons, bars, etc) and also the general base systems we were used to (the military engine, the colonization, etc) all that changed from EU2 to EU3, which led many people to keep playing on EU2 even if it's obsolete now and therefore we stayed apart from the rest of the community.
I really loved EU1 and EU2 and still play EU2. I've tried EU3 and I quitted after a couple of days playing because it's just way too confusing since everything changed.
Im afraid the era of EU1 and 2 ended for good, and it's a pitty because the game was lovely and now I can barely play its successors.
My suggestion to EU4 is to come back with the EU2 User Interface and the old systems that everyone was used to. EU3 just turned the game too confusing. If you have played EU1 and then got into EU2, you could play it the same way without having to adapt yourself and you could enjoy the new features without any worries at all. In EU3 I just dont recognize the game and I just close it and get back to EU2.
I'd love to see a continuation of the EU2, since III is not the sequel and so isn't IV. Or you could give the player to choose between classic EU interface or new EU interface so it could satisfy everyone, and on the same time we could enjoy the new features without having to lose time finding where things are and what they do.
EU2 was great and all I would ask for it was a major grafical upgrade like we can see in IV and a few more cool features that we have in III such as things to build in the provinces etc. The rest I totally disregard it.
My opinion towards III is that you tried to introduce many new things and that led to a completely different game in which it wouldnt favour the transiction of the community from EU2 to EU3.
If IV is just the same thing as III but with updates then I'll say it straight away that it doesn't motivate me to buy it, since III was just as confusing and different from the real Europa Universalis(1 and 2) we met in our childhood (at least some of us).
This is why the EU2 is still 'alive' on this forum and once in a while some ppl gather and do their Multiplayer sessions. One of the many things I asked to the people that were still playing EU2 while I tried to join in their campaign was: Why didnt you go to EU3 instead? (i hadnt tried the game yet). And they said, "because EU3 is completely different and confusing and we don't enjoy playing it, so we stay in EU2." There you get the point. Remember that sale numbers aren't always everything. People will buy a thing with the expectation of it to be better, but then they might just put the game on a corner and stop playing it for good after a while, and many times not even caring about or desiring the upcoming version of the game.
EU2 is very old and people still play it and were desiring a EU3, but then it came and it disapointed many people. These people came back to EU2, until they get fed up of playing it as there is no more sequels
All EU2 needed was a continuation of it (like u did with EU2 from EU1) with a major graphical upgrade like u did in EU3 and 4 while keep the base systems and just add a couple more details and options to things.
The upgrade from EU1 to EU2 was perfect. You made the changes just perfectly. From EU2 to EU3, it's a complete different game
Think about it, the EU oldschools will thank you accordingly
You're still in time to make Europa Universalis IV a EU2 sequel while keeping these lovely IV graphics; but if you dont want to do another EU title just to make a sequel of EU2, you could make an official patch then, making all these graphical upgrades and any other details you find interesting just like you did from EU1 to EU2.
Well I hope all this long repetitive post made you at least think and wonder about it XD.
Just so you know, I can't wait to start another campaign with those fellow EU2 players down there, as I dont have any desire at all to play EU3.. :-\ although I wish i had interest in it but the game itself doesnt pull me. If IV was like the text stated above you could be sure I'd buy and play it straight away and many oldschools would as well for sure.
Best Regards,
Diablosrouge
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