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MattyG

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Ahmed reports a great increase in the number of CTDs he has been experiencing with the recent patches.

I had thought it likely to be the double capitals for first Manchu and then Adal, but he reports 21 crashes in the most recent version. Ahmed feels it might be connected with the loansize events, and he might be right, but scripting-wise they are pretty straightforward. And it can't be related to the growing size of the mod, we are still way smaller than the AGCEEP.

Are other people experiencing a lot of crashes?
 
Bugger.

I had hoped it was just Ahmed and I could blame it on his computer.

Here are the likely culprits:

1. Loansize and the AI. (though I am not certain why.

2. The Cossack Hetmanate/Ruthenia/Ukraine stuff.

3. Something strange happening in Asia.

Matty
 
i keep getting one around 1430, plus my autosaves don't work for some reason, in the history file the last thing that came up was "I. Olhanskyi rose to the throne in Cossack Hetmanate." but i'm not sure if that's going to help, it's happened to me for the last three times this ctd

EDIT: it only seems to happen to me when I'm playing swabia, anything in the swabian event files around 1430?
 
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Olhanski becomes monarch in 1433, but there is nothing special connected with that, but it lets me know that it is just after that date.

Problem is, it could be any event with an offset that might permit it to happen in 1433. Gulp.

The Swabian file has a number of events that could occur in that period, but nothing with effects that ought to cause a CTD.

Let me know if you notice anything else, and thanks for the tips.
 
yeah i know there might be trouble in pinpointing it, still it's happened each time when playing swabia, maybe it's just my system, still it's a weird one, and unlike most crashes it doesn't bring up a send error report box(as usually happens in xp) it usually happens around 1432, i'll try again, it could also do with the fact that each time i had declared war on papacy and reduced it to one province, but how could that effect it?

EDIT: well i got another one that was similiar but this time in 1420 or thereabouts, again no don't send error report message and the most recent autosave was unusable, i was running it at coward aggresiveness, which seemed to have had an effect as another game i had at normal wasn't having any trouble except for typical crashes which you can just reload from, maybe it's an error with the ai? and maybe it only effects it at coward aggressiveness, I'll try similiar settings with a different nation

Edit 2: okay it has nothing to do with aggresiveness or being swabia i had the same type of ctd except this time i was the hansa, again it was around 1423 this time, it's a crippling error as the autosaves don't work so you can't reload, and again it ctds without giving the typical send error report message, what's going on?

Edit 3(!) : okay here's something more major it always seems to happen at the start of the year, it might be to do with the autosave trying to save something which doesn't compute(hence corrupted save game) or it could also be something that happens on the first of january that causes it to crash, ruining the save in the process, I do remember these crashes always seem to happen near the start of the year but frankly I am stumped, however I think it has absolutely nothing to do with events, look at other stuff that has changed(although it may be unique to my system which I doubt because every other mod works without this error comeing up)
 
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I think it doesn't have anything to do with offset. Whatever it is, it happens soon after I. Olhanski is king of Ukraine. It happened just after he came to power in the one game out of three that I have played.
 
I don't think it has anything to do with Ohhanski, but he's a good clue.

Ahmed feels it might be related to the loansize events, that perhaps the game doesn't cope with the strange numbers it has to calculate. So, I will post later today a revised version where only the player gets the loansize variation. Maybe that will change it.

Ahmed removed all the events from Cossack Hetmanate Golden Horde and some others and still got all the same CTDs, so it isn't located in those event files.

I'll keep looking.

Thanks.