Foreign Investment Rights removed

[thorn969]

I don't have the Charters of Commerce DLC. Played a save on the 'latest' version (although pretty sure this is true for all versions post 1.9). The patch notes say:

• Reworked Treaty Port, Foreign Investment Rights, Ban Slavery and the Force Nationalization wargoal to use Treaties instead

Treaty Port now appears in the new 'treaties' function (which is nice). Ban Slavery appears as a war goal (can also be done by treaty as a law commitment). But the force nationalization and foreign investment rights are gone. I think not being able to get foreign investment rights makes the new version market worse than before. I understand that Monopolies and a lot of the changes in companies are DLC features, but it doesn't seem fair that foreign investment rights have suddenly become a DLC feature when they weren't previously.

 

[AndrewT]

Not a tech support issue so moved to main forum. If the community agrees it's likely to be a bug, post in Bug Reports please.

 

[Helmut von Dandy]

I don't have the Charters of Commerce DLC. Played a save on the 'latest' version (although pretty sure this is true for all versions post 1.9). The patch notes say:

• Reworked Treaty Port, Foreign Investment Rights, Ban Slavery and the Force Nationalization wargoal to use Treaties instead

Treaty Port now appears in the new 'treaties' function (which is nice). Ban Slavery appears as a war goal (can also be done by treaty as a law commitment). But the force nationalization and foreign investment rights are gone. I think not being able to get foreign investment rights makes the new version market worse than before. I understand that Monopolies and a lot of the changes in companies are DLC features, but it doesn't seem fair that foreign investment rights have suddenly become a DLC feature when they weren't previously.

They’ve always been a DLC feature. They were originally part of Sphere of Influence but they’re also available with Charters of Commerce.

 

[OxfordNik]

They’ve always been a DLC feature. They were originally part of Sphere of Influence but they’re also available with Charters of Commerce.

Sounds like OP is querying whether the two options are/should be available if they don't have ChoCo (depends whether they have Sphere of Influence or not, I guess?).

I've definitely seen Investment Rights come up as a War Goal option in sways (but it's pretty deeply hidden - have to look for it to find it, and the UI is pretty hard to navigate when you're facing several different opponents), but can't remember seeing Force Nationalisation.

I guess what I'm saying is that it'd be nice to have a bit more clearly signposted what things can be done through treaty articles and what can't (and maybe ways to filter goals/opponents that are a bit more user friendly?).

Will try to test when I'm in game later and see whether the options come up or not (both in sways and diplo plays), hopefully someone with just the base game (not the two relevant expansions, or with one but not the other) can confirm whether the issue is there for them too?

 

[Helmut von Dandy]

Will try to test when I'm in game later and see whether the options come up or not (both in sways and diplo plays), hopefully someone with just the base game (not the two relevant expansions, or with one but not the other) can confirm whether the issue is there for them too?

Force Nationalisation requires Sphere of Influence and Investment Rights requires Sphere of Influence or Charters of Commerce.

OP seems to be under the impression that they used to be in the baSE game. They were not. They’ve always required DLC.