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Multisampling

When I turned off multisampling it said I needed to restart (the computer?)before the changes would take place so I closed Rome and when I tried to open it without restarting the computer I got an error and it wouldn't even open to the start window.

I reinstalled and thought it would work fine like before but froze again after a few years. I'll try a whole restart after turning off multisampling. I doubt I'll be able to continue my save.
 
Please post your settings.txt and system.log files. Also run DXDIAG, Save All Info, and post dxdiag.txt here up to the Sound Devices section.
 
bufetjak's specs.

attached are the dxdiag and the settings.txt, the system.log was called an invalid file so I copied and pasted below. thanks for your attention.



Kernel Release[systemsettings.cpp:147]: System memory: 512MB
Kernel Release[systemsettings.cpp:149]: CPU speed: 1809MHz
Kernel Release[systemsettings.cpp:156]: Number of processors: 1
Kernel Release[systemsettings.cpp:166]: CPU type: x86
Kernel Release[systemsettings.cpp:198]: OS: Windows XP Service Pack 2 Build: 2600
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:107]: Graphic Adapters:
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:112]: 0: ATI Radeon X300/X550/X1050 Series
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:129]: Checking for multi-sampling support:
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:140]: 2 samples supported.
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:140]: 4 samples supported.
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:140]: 6 samples supported.
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:155]: Using Adapter [0]:
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:161]: Succeeded to create a device [D3DCREATE_HARDWARE_VERTEXPROCESSING].
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:203]: Graphics device: ATI Radeon X300/X550/X1050 Series
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:204]: Graphics driver: ati2dvag.dll
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:209]: Driver version: 6764
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:226]:


Dumping all gfx info:
DeviceIdentifier: {D7B71EE2-1820-11CF-9F69-5620A1C2CB35}
VendorId: 4098
DeviceId: 23392
SubSysId: 6033475
Revision: 0
DriverVersion.HighPart: 393230
DriverVersion.LowPart: 662124


Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:276]: Instancing supported.
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:294]: Video memory amount: 134MB
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:297]: Support for T&L found.
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:300]: MaxSimultaneousTextures: 8
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:301]: MaxVertexBlendMatrices: 4
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:302]: MaxVertexBlendMatrixIndex: 37
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:304]: MaxSimultaneousTextures: 8
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:305]: MaxTextureBlendStages: 8
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:306]: Support for Anisotropic filtering found.
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:309]: Max Anisotropic filtering: 16
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:310]: Anisotropic filtering set to: 0
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:314]: Vertex Shader version: 2.0
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:319]: Pixel Shader version: 2.0
Kernel Release[main.cpp:208]: Rome Version May 13 2008 : 08:54:08
Kernel Release[internationalizedtext.cpp:1167]: Create table
Kernel Release[internationalizedtext.cpp:1169]: Create text database
Kernel Release[dxmusic.cpp:39]: Init Music
Kernel Release[dxmusic.cpp:45]: Graph done 0
Kernel Release[dxmusic.cpp:51]: Control done 0
Kernel Release[dxmusic.cpp:57]: Seeking done 0
Kernel Release[dxmusic.cpp:62]: Event done 0
Kernel Release[dxmusic.cpp:67]: Music done 0
Kernel Release[DirectSound.cpp:36]: Init DirectSound
Kernel Release[DirectSound.cpp:54]: Sound initialised with result 0
Kernel Release[DirectSound.cpp:64]: Coop Level Set. Result: 0
Kernel Release[DirectSound.cpp:86]: Sound Init Done
Kernel Release[graphics.cpp:129]: Direct3D Created
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1024 768 60
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1024 768 70
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1024 768 72
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1024 768 75
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1024 768 85
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1024 768 90
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1024 768 100
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1024 768 120
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1024 768 150
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1024 768 160
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1024 768 200
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1152 864 60
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1152 864 70
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1152 864 75
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1152 864 85
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1152 864 100
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1280 768 60
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1280 768 75
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1280 768 85
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1280 960 60
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1280 960 70
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1280 960 72
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1280 960 75
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1280 960 85
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1280 960 100
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1280 960 120
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1280 960 160
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1280 960 200
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1280 1024 60
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1280 1024 70
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1280 1024 75
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1280 1024 85
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1280 1024 90
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1280 1024 100
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1280 1024 120
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1280 1024 160
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1280 1024 180
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1360 768 60
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1360 768 75
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1360 768 85
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1360 1024 60
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1360 1024 75
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1360 1024 85
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1440 900 60
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1440 900 75
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1440 900 85
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1600 1200 60
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1600 1200 70
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1600 1200 75
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1600 1200 85
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1600 1200 100
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1600 1200 120
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1680 1050 60
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1680 1050 75
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1680 1050 85
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1680 1050 100
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1792 1344 60
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1792 1344 75
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1792 1344 85
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1792 1344 90
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1792 1344 100
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1800 1440 60
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1800 1440 70
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1800 1440 72
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1800 1440 75
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1800 1440 85
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1800 1440 90
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1800 1440 100
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1856 1392 60
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1856 1392 72
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1856 1392 75
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1856 1392 85
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1856 1392 90
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1856 1392 100
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1920 1080 60
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1920 1080 75
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1920 1080 85
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1920 1080 100
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1920 1080 120
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1920 1200 60
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1920 1200 75
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1920 1200 85
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1920 1200 100
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1920 1440 60
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1920 1440 75
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1920 1440 85
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 1920 1440 90
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 2048 1536 60
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 2048 1536 66
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 2048 1536 70
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 2048 1536 75
Kernel Release[graphicssettings.cpp:626]: Usable res: 2048 1536 85
Kernel Release[graphics.cpp:224]: Not using multisampling.
Kernel Release[graphics.cpp:244]: Creating device with: D3DCREATE_HARDWARE_VERTEXPROCESSING
Fullscreen=yes
RefreshRate=60
Resolution=1024x768
Kernel Release[graphics.cpp:324]: Done creating device.
 

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I haven't seen that laptop chipset used here before. But do try updating your video driver http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?p=xp/radeonx-xp

As it only happens after playing for a while, we should look at your system and video temperatures. If your laptop doesn't provide a way of looking at that, Google for SPEEDFAN and install that; if you see temps over about 50C that's definitely a problem. Check your fans are all working and the vents aren't blocked by dust, or stuff on your desk.
 
My computer's a PC I bought in Prague three plus years ago, bringing my HD and copy of windows with me from the states. (The HD had EUII on it at the time.) That might explain the wierd chip set-up. As for the fix:

Well the driver updates didn't do it, it froze in the first year again. It seems like it's a memory thing because it doesn't freeze for the first 90 years (kelts) and 40 years (macedonia - more going on) and then after restart and load save it freezes before the next year even when I've turned the computer on cold. I believe I have plenty of memory (although with all these MS and driver updates I don't know for how much longer) and I even vaccumed the inside of my pc housing in the meantime, cleaning it out good.

This is the first game that's ever done that on my system including heavy graphics games like the total wars on up to medieval II but their strategy sucks so I prefer the EU types. Has paradox gone the way of microsoft and putting stuff out before it works?

If it's the temperature, well it doesn't affect anything else, and if that's the case I'd say it's the game. If there's nothing else I can do, I'll just take the game back for a refund and wait until the gold package comes out in another year or so with the empire expansion or whatever they have planned to make it a two-part sale like every strategy game since AOE. (I was suprised to see the recent prequel to EUIII.) Hopefully they'll have something like all the others that seem to work for most people...and me until Rome got so fancy.

Thanks again for the help and if there's anything else I can do before I take it back to the retailer for my 40 euros I'll give it a try. Otherwise I can spend that money on beer watching the EM for the next three weeks.

Jedeme hos'i!
 
Paradox games push the video processor harder than almost any other game, certainly more than MW2. I urge you to install the SPEEDFAN utilty, it's free.
 
speed fan report

well here's what it says:


Fan1: 0 RPM
Fan2: 3358 RPM
Fan3: 8882 RPM

Temp1: 38C
Temp2: 43C
Temp3: 66C
Temp1: 22C
Core: 47C

Temp 3 is over 50C but I don't know what that corresponds to and how that could be adjusted.

When I opened her up yesterday all three fans were whizzing so I don't know why it's reporting a 0 RPM for Fan1
 
interesting

Well I opened the start screen to access this page but instinctively I his the play after I had packed the game up to take to the store. I played for twelve years with no freeze and don't know if there's a rational explanation for it. Perhaps it was a favorable sacrifice to the gods or just having speedfan installed. I'll see if it keeps up.

Thanks again.
 
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