Germany 1187

[DoS]

I just wanted to start a game in 1187 scenario, to get a little feel for the situation for an AAR I want to write. The problem, the person I wanted to play wasn´t there. Within Germany there are some things not historically correct. I start with an important relation that should be there.

House "Askanien" is very powerfull at scenario start, they do not only rule Saxony, but also Brandenburg and Hedwig Askanien is married to Otto Wettin the Duke of Meissen. Those who want to have a deeper impression of the dynastical relations should look into an old thread of mine: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=138030

I have started to make some dynastical corrections, they should look somewhat like that:

Changes to characters:
--> removed the wrong Dukes of Meissen and Brandenburg/corrected dynasties, added some characters, changed some stats and looks, more changes to come (will look over my characterizations in the old thread)

renamed character 12908 "Albert Askanien" to "Albrecht Askanien", he is known as Albrecht "Der Bär"

character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 12035 }
name = "Otto I"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =226 }
father = { type = 10 id = 12908 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 12909 }
country = BRAN
religion = catholic
culture = german
score = { gold = 0 prestige = 200 piety = 200 }
birthdate = { year = 1128 month = january day = 0 }
deathdate = { year = 1185 month = july day = 8 }
dna = "03804545041602"
attributes = {
martial = 5
diplomacy = 6
intrigue = 7
stewardship = 6
health = 5
fertility = 5
}
traits = {
generous = yes
proven_dealbreaker = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 12036 }
name = "Hedwig"
gender = female
dynasty = { type = 12 id =226 }
father = { type = 10 id = 12908 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 12909 }
country = MEIS
religion = catholic
culture = german
score = { gold = 25 prestige = 100 piety = 100 }
birthdate = { year = 1140 month = january day = 0 }
dna = "03804545061602"
attributes = {
martial = 5
diplomacy = 8
intrigue = 8
stewardship = 4
health = 6
fertility = 6
}
traits = {
suspicious = yes
scholarly_theologian = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 12037 }
name = "Otto II"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =226 }
father = { type = 10 id = 12035 }
country = BRAN
religion = catholic
culture = german
score = { gold = 25 prestige = 100 piety = 100 }
birthdate = { year = 1150 month = january day = 0 }
dna = "38804511031604"
attributes = {
martial = 5
diplomacy = 8
intrigue = 8
stewardship = 4
health = 6
fertility = 6
}
traits = {
chaste = yes
knowledged_tactician = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 12038 }
name = "Otto"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =528 }
country = MEIS
religion = catholic
culture = german
score = { gold = 400 prestige = 250 piety = 200 }
birthdate = { year = 1125 month = january day = 0 }
dna = "05010511042007"
attributes = {
martial = 5
diplomacy = 7
intrigue = 5
stewardship = 10
health = 6
fertility = 6
}
traits = {
wise = yes
temperate = yes
proud = yes
knowledged_tactician = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 12039 }
name = "Albrecht"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =528 }
father = { type = 10 id = 12038 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 12036 }
country = MEIS
religion = catholic
culture = german
score = { gold = 50 prestige = 50 piety = 20 }
birthdate = { year = 1158 month = january day = 0 }
dna = "05050511150302"
attributes = {
martial = 6
diplomacy = 6
intrigue = 10
stewardship = 7
health = 4
fertility = 6
}
traits = {
proud = yes
cruel = yes
deceitful = yes
tough_soldier = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 12040 }
name = "Dietrich"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =528 }
father = { type = 10 id = 12038 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 12036 }
country = MEIS
religion = catholic
culture = german
score = { gold = 30 prestige = 100 piety = 100 }
birthdate = { year = 1162 month = january day = 0 }
dna = "05050511140302"
attributes = {
martial = 9
diplomacy = 7
intrigue = 6
stewardship = 9
health = 6
fertility = 6
}
traits = {
wise = yes
just = yes
knowledged_tactician = yes
}
}
removed the wrong bohemian Albrecht, who is married to:
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 12853 }
name = "Sofie"
gender = female
dynasty = { type = 12 id =506 }
father = { type = 10 id = 12850 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 19512 }
country = MEIS (I changed that, she was in bohemia before)
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 1168 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "68152723162309"
attributes = {
martial = 7
diplomacy = 8
intrigue = 4
stewardship = 6
health = 5
fertility = 7
}
traits = {
merciful = yes
proven_dealbreaker = yes
}
}
change to relations:
marrige = {
primary = { type = 10 id = 12039 }
secondary = { type = 10 id = 12853 }
startdate = { year = 1186 month = january day = 1 }
}
marrige = {
primary = { type = 10 id = 12038 }
secondary = { type = 10 id = 12036 }
startdate = { year = 1156 month = january day = 1 }
}
(the second marriage was earlier, but since child marriages are not allowed I changed it to a later date)
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- changed province 311 name from "Plauen" to "Altenburg" and put it under direct rule of the emperor/german king, that fits with historical situation, since it was a "Kaiserpfalz" and towns like Chemnitz that were founded around that time in the area were under imperial rule
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I think I have to rework the id´s because I guess they are reserved for Paradox, but I was too idle for that at the moment, sorry (and I have some bad headache :wacko: ). What I will do also, is to give Braunschweig to "Heinrich the Lion" the old enemy of Friedrich I Hohenstaufen.

 

[DoS]

In the Saxony setup there is something wrong. Matilde Angevin (id = 4509) was not married to a member of the Askanien family, but to Heinrich XII Welf "The Lion" (Welf = dynastie 650). In 1187 he still held Braunschweig (C257).

So my quick solution for the situation looks somewhat like this:

character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 12900 }
name = "Heinrich XII"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =650 }
country = C257
religion = catholic
culture = German
birthdate = { year = 1129 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1195 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "01677800042900"
attributes = {
martial = 6
diplomacy = 5
intrigue = 7
stewardship = 7
health = 7
fertility = 8
}
traits = {
vengeful = yes
charismatic_negotiator = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 12902 }
name = "Heinrich I"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =650 }
father = { type = 10 id = 12900 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 4509 }
country = C257
religion = catholic
culture = German
birthdate = { year = 1173 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1227 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "01677812012917"
attributes = {
martial = 6
diplomacy = 5
intrigue = 6
stewardship = 5
health = 6
fertility = 5
}
traits = {
court_education = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 12903 }
name = "Lothar"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =650 }
father = { type = 10 id = 12900 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 4509 }
country = C257
religion = catholic
culture = German
birthdate = { year = 1174 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1227 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "00677839002917"
attributes = {
martial = 5
diplomacy = 6
intrigue = 5
stewardship = 8
health = 6
fertility = 5
}
traits = {
court_education = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 12901 }
name = "Heinrich"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =226 }
father = { type = 10 id = 12905 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 12906 }
country = SAXO
religion = catholic
culture = German
birthdate = { year = 1174 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1252 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "43677839372917"
attributes = {
martial = 6
diplomacy = 5
intrigue = 7
stewardship = 7
health = 7
fertility = 8
}
traits = {
sceptical = yes
court_education = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 4509 }
name = "Matilda"
gender = female
dynasty = { type = 12 id =369 }
father = { type = 10 id = 4500 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 5730 }
country = c257
religion = catholic
culture = Frankish
birthdate = { year = 1156 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1189 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "98121655546666"
attributes = {
martial = 8
diplomacy = 8
intrigue = 4
stewardship = 5
health = 4
fertility = 7
}
traits = {
zealous = yes
flamboyant_schemer = yes
}
}


I made province C257(Braunschweig) vassal of Saxony and Heinrich XII the count of Braunschweig. This is just a quick solution, since Heinrich XII. was already married for the second time when the game starts. I will work on that. I just made these changes for my AAR preparations.

 

[tombom]

Do you think this is a good thing to change for everybody else?

 

[DoS]

Do you think this is a good thing to change for everybody else?

Well, my english is not that well, so I just answer that how my abilities allow me to ( = I´m not certain if I understood you right ). I´m just trying to help the betas working on the scenario to put things right. I would have done these changes anyway, so if others can profit from it thats fine. As long as you don´t complain that your game doesn´t work anymore after you changed that way its Ok with me. I hope that answered your question !