Germany Vassal Exploit Makes the Game Super Easy?

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Whenever I play as Germany I can keep my scutage at nothing because my income is so high, which means most of the Germanic vassals love me all the time and ensures that they have large armies; then when a vassal does revolt (usually those darn Eye-talians) I raise my army, raise the vassal armies, and dismiss my armies except for my smallest one. This means I usually still have a positive income during the war; by switching vassals in and out to avoid poing them or killing all their armies I can wage almost perpetual war; and since they can't ever go below 0 gold their provinces and finances will still be in a good state after this.

I'm sure someone else has realized this before, but it makes the game super easy as Germany. The largest problem they should have, too damn many vassals, is easily worked around.

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

Yes, once you figure out how the game can be exploited CK becomes a very easy game. . besides setting 'house-rules' there is not much you can do to make it harder.

That is why most people don't start as a big kingdom, but as a count or small duke and then try to built an empire.

 

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Yes, once you figure out how the game can be exploited CK becomes a very easy game. . besides setting 'house-rules' there is not much you can do to make it harder.

That is why most people don't start as a big kingdom, but as a count or small duke and then try to built an empire.

Yeah, I've been playing as Eastern European dukes anymore, German and France just have too much income and manpower to be feasibly challenged by anything in the game.

As an aside, a friend and I once allied as Germany and France; within 100 years we'd both become Emperors and taken most of the Holy Land.

 

[Heszeth]

Germany is incredibly easy to play as, yes. I've been thinking of some house-rules to make them more interesting for my next game however. So far i've come up with simply setting the law to elective and keeping my family's land reasonably fair compared to the others. Losing the kingdom to another family for a generation or two shouldn't be a worry (that's if you can keep playing as your son in the kingdom after losing your primary title.. I'd assume so). Along with that, not force-mobilizing a vassal's armies would be another way to represent the uncentralized Germany we should be playing as.

I can't think of any others, but i'd love to hear from other player's on who to make Germany more challenging.

Although now I think about it, trying to hold Germany together as a vassal isn't very easy.. I guess that could help the challenge