Help?

[JDMS]

Alright, so I got CK and DV today and I only ran into two problems that caused me to ask questions. (Please forgive me if they sound stupid. )

1) What are good strategies to keep your vassals loyal?

2) Are there navies in this game? If so, where are they? If not, how do you transport troops across water?

Thanks for any help y'all can offer.

 

[TempestDK]

Alright, so I got CK and DV today and I only ran into two problems that caused me to ask questions. (Please forgive me if they sound stupid. )

1) What are good strategies to keep your vassals loyal?

2) Are there navies in this game? If so, where are they? If not, how do you transport troops across water?

Thanks for any help y'all can offer.

Welcome

1) Have low BB/Reputation, high Diplomacy (Ruler's + Chancellor's rating) and high Prestige. Bad traits like Excommunication, Kinslayer and Heretic are to be avoided. If you open the chracter screen of one of your vassals, hover the mouse over his loyalty-rating and you will get a tool-tip telling you what factors in his loyalty gain/loss.

2) No navies. To move troops over the sea, just select the army and click on the province you want to go to, and it will cross any waterways on the way.

One word or advice though. The cost for transporting over sea provinces is calculated on the number of provinces crossed. This means also any land provinces on the way to the sea. So if you want to move your troops from Prussia to Jerusalem, the costs would be enormous. Instead move your army to a coastal province close to where you want to go (in the example above, somewhere in Italy) and once it gets there, then you click on a coastal province near Jerusalem. That way you keep shipping costs to a minimum.

Edit: Accidentally wrote that the Spymaster's Diplomacy rating that affected loyalty. Changed it. Thanks for pointing that out Veld

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

Welcome

1) Have low BB/Reputation, high Diplomacy (Ruler's + Spymaster's rating) and high Prestige. Bad traits like Excommunication, Kinslayer and Heretic are to be avoided. If you open the chracter screen of one of your vassals, hover the mouse over his loyalty-rating and you will get a tool-tip telling you what factors in his loyalty gain/loss.

It is ruler + chancellor

Another factor are your laws, Feudal Contract gives your vassals a +1 loyalty bonus, also not taxing them (scutage to zero) gives another +1 loyalty bonus

 

[TempestDK]

It is ruler + chancellor

Another factor are your laws, Feudal Contract gives your vassals a +1 loyalty bonus, also not taxing them (scutage to zero) gives another +1 loyalty bonus

Ups ... early morning

And also vassals that are closely related, also get a family bonus ... And the Byzantine Emperor gets a bonus from vassals who are georgian, greek or armenian, if I remember correctly

 

[JDMS]

Thanks for the answers.
This should help a lot.

 

[S0ny B1ack]

Sorry for abusing this thread for one of my questions, but I think its on topic:
OK I read on the forums about the loyality damaging events (-50 or something like that). How likely are they to hit exatly the same vassal 3 or 4 times in 2 or 3 months ??? With gifts (I hadn't have that much mony because of a recent expensive war) I got his loyalty high enough but I soon ran out of money (the last time I bribed him hes loyality dropped the next day).

 

[S0ny B1ack]

I think it have been mentioned, that if he has "Remellious" trait (The Blue shield with crossed swords on it and it says "rebellious" in the tooltip when tou hover over it with your mouse), which he most propably has, he will get these events pretty often and no amount of gold will make him loyal.
You are in luck if he just declares war on you (cuz then you can recapture him right away). Bit less so if he declares independence. And even worse if you get that "Realm Duress" event ... So my advice to you would be: Don't try to gift rebels, dude.
I have tryed to assasinate this sort of people, but sometimes their son can hold grudge against you, try to assassinate you or even turns rebel himself quite quickly ...

Thanks forgot about the trait o ofcourse I also read about it(but obviously I totally forgot it:wacko. I will check immediatly if he has it.

EDIT: Yes that was it, I loaded an earlier save when I had enough money for an assasination - and succeded but I was discovered, and because his son had 0 loyality my daughter (who is one of my vassals) began assasinating his successor and succeeded but was also discovered and so it ended with her killing 3 desendents of the first vassal (I don't know why she had that much money) and she was still dicovered LOL