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... of the action too
me and a good friend have this MP game going on (im germany and he's italy) its supposed to be a way of satisfying our inner fantasi of world domination but as it is now its turning out to become a contest in stupid decisions and hollow promises...
an example is the offensive in the balkans witch was started too early was under-financed ill-planned (i could go on and on here) a certain someone promises the coastal are of a certain country but "happens" to annex that country before the other guy could capture that area, or having to beg each other for reinforcements in our seprate campaigns of idiocy (once again i could go on etc etc...)

now most of the AAR:s here about how glorious the author is and how goooood he is, this one is more about greed and stupidty and belive you me we have good laughs after each session.
now to my point

would yall be intrested in countious reporting or would i just be wasting my time?
 
ok

the campaign has been restarted (due to total qonquer by the allies) we started with the following set up
scenario: road to war 1936(no mods)
dificulty: normal
agression: normal
i plays as germany friend plays as italy

and..... go!!!

you know that small country that italy allways annexes at that start of the game? well it managed to get a status quo peace with italy... ok close ur mouth now and stop staring

a plan for the offensive on frace was elaborated, the essentials were that italy would leave the axis, germany would dow belgium and france, the french will concentrate on the german offensive and leave the italian border unchecked. thats when the italians join the war and race for the atlantic shore (we had a plan of deviding france in half)
now prior to that germany biulds 9 Pz I divisions for the blitz in france

sometime in late 1936 operation "why-did-you-dow-france?-i-need-to-get-my-units-in-place-first" starts
now the belgians gave germany one heck of a fight we had to reinforce that front to the point of having 24 divs vs 12 divs half of my 24 had 50 or less health left. the rest of the offensive was more or less flawless (the panzers had to help the italians a couple of times) and germany ends up surrounding 16 french divisions in Metz. as in the screen shots.
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Now as for italy they cant handle the defence of the atlantic shore so germany takes it upon its self to defend (as some canadian divisions landed and took a whoooole lot of italian territory) they was pushed back and had to swim back to canada :rolleyes:
now that western europe is secured our attentions swifted to more personal matters such as capturing the english main land and conquest of africa, now this is funny
the entire german fleet was assembled in the central english channel and some 12 divisions were landed italy asks for help in africa germany takes a look at african map to see what could be done, 6 pz I divisions were planned to be landed as soon as transports in the mediterranean see were avalible
germany tkaes a new look at england just to find out that 12 divisions with its finest commanders (rommels and von runstedt) were encircled and completly destroyed and boy did italy hear about it (on the voice com software)....
-- why voice com you ask? well, we never found the chat key--

now england is left for now and attention swifts to africa and the balkans.

just remeber iraq has a WHOLE lot of oil and you bet theres gonna a big fat race for it
italy could just land some divions and race for it while germany has to go thure balcans and turkey.
no plans were mentioned before the host crashed and the game was saved by the non host person

todays closing comment: the heck with stukas we have a bomb to develop before the russian campaign
 
todays closing comment: the heck with stukas we have a bomb to develop before the russian campaign
funny:D

You could always invade Romania for oil, seeing as the have more than Iraq. Keep going i like it:D
 
what? romania has mor eoil then iraq? this will not be mentioned in the next strat meeting with italy thats for sure:cool: . gonna work on the devide mid-east oil agreement.
 
a new day
a new couple of months a new loss (doh')

after the failed attempt at siezing the english mainland german attention switches to the balkans (is it spelled with a "C" or "K"... nevermind you get the idea), romania and bulgaria remain unchecked as for now.

itlay manages to loose some 12 divisions in africa, rommels africa corps was a tad late for the rescue. germany gives italy crap for not succeeding in securing africa, italy complains about not getting enough technology... germany replies "screw your understrengthed soldiers, we'll do it for you" new plan is in the undetaking.

italy is to secure turkey in preparation for the russian campaign
germany has to blitz through poland and biuld up the main force
england remains unchecked as for, altho i frear they might land the 50 divisions stationed in london as soon as the russian campagin starts(that would **** us up good).

todays closing comment: for every day that goes by, we get closer to building the panthers. as soon as the first panther hits the production band, all armour research will be halted until furhter notice
 
the bulkans are now secured
new plan was to attack turkey to open a flank from witch the italians could attack the russians in the upcoming russian campaign. italy promises germany free hands in iraq a beachhead in beruit was opened by the german panzers (still pz I).

italy declares war on turkey, but the attack is done by 13 german division, 3 of witch are panzers. the blitz in turkey is fast.. soooo fast that turkey is left with some 13 divs out of the original 23, the remainder of the force is low on org. german forces who had captured half turkey to the italians acount now open the beruit beachhead in beruit. a supply line to beruit is now clear and operation "blitz for oil" is on the way. The french (whos main purpose in this game is to be a b*tch and give the human player a "for no aparent reason" big pain in the *ss) recapture beruit cutting of the german supply line, italy hops in for the rescue and beruit is now italian. infact the entire beachhead is italian, german forces are pressed to retreat due to lack of supplys.
von manstein is now pissed at the italians;"who the heck told you to help us?". the italians managed to loose land to the turks who are more or less heading for german territory.
for the germans infantry and panzer production is given high IC priorety. the stupid italians insist on building coastal fortesses all over the coasts. when asked by the germans "why you do that? you dont even have enough men to man the god forsaken fortesses!" italy replys "ummm... what if THEY land?"
"THEY" is no one in specific just THEY might try land.
germany has to look elsewhere or at worst a new path to reach the ever so needed oil for the panzers.
screen shots are to be posted soon "hopefully"

todays closing comment: now that i've seen italy in action with human control, i gotta say. They do BETTER when AI :mad:
 
note to self: don't listen to Seidita
 
screen shot update. hope yall likes it
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1. retreating panzer army due to lack of supplies (thank you AGAIN italy)

2. retreating panzer army due to lack of org, due to lack of supplies. That one is an expeditionary one on lease to italy.

3. hopefully we wont be getting no ****ing bitter peace because i have a feeling someone is gonna rush for a certain stalingrad witch needs to be under german control for the bitter peace event.

ps: i finaly found the flag mod. (wierd i thought it would feel cooler but it dont...)

todays closing comment: none. this is the promised screen shot for the ealier report
 
finaly found a way around to get the precious iraqi oil mmmm... good oil.

atempted a landing on the UK and happend to click on the run where it said "danzig or war" turns out i click on the war key and polish sigle division was racing for berlin. it managed to get one province, witch is good... by poland-vs-germany stanards.
the polish defender had a hard time doing thier job as the germans had stacked well above 50 divisions as resevers for the upcoming russian campaign. they got some target practice.
italy manage to loose 6 panzer divisions under rommel again !!! yes ROMMEL... and for gods sake AGAIN yes, i dont get it either.

the encircled french troops (see screenshot above) were sent to... were destroyed all 18 of em :D
switzerland had to go (we need to find a nice place for our generals to retire to, and we heard switzerland was good not only this time of the year, it is ALL good baby)


all in all todays session was a good one, as italy managed to stay of the way for ONCE. nothing dramatic happend, except for puppeting the UK. I said nothing DRAMATIC, the UK forces were good doggys who couldnt defend them selves against thier own tactics (you know surround the enemys with single division and make them starve to death)
no screen shots for today as the whole thing was undramatic, i suspect that the italians were under influence...:confused:
so in conclusion; i know i seem a bit happy,cockey even its just that...

todays closing comment: we got panthers baby :D:D:D:D:D:D
all newly uppgraded 12 divisions and around 30 to come. weeeeeeeeeee
 
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the invasion of england was a major disapointment
the resistance was ZERO
we managed to apply the ever-so-much-pain-the-bum AI strategi or surrounding the enemy while attacking, some 30 divisions sudcame to our glourious rommel + 8 panther divisions
the rest was easy. due to italys constant faliure of securing africa (its been going since the start of 1936 and they aint got it under control yet)
the entire german fleet of 43 flolittas(most part of witch are captured from other nations) is now chacing the french colonies to put the "frenchies" out of their misury :D
poland was overrun pretty easy not even worth mentioning.
the build up for the russian campaign continues, german high command has switched from massed army to superior quality, all regular infantry has to go/upgrade. the plan is to outspeed the enemy and encirclement manuvers.
our army is now half the size of the russian with double the power.

italy is still struggeling with EVERYTHING, they cant even maintain the IC level. otherwise not much to report about italy, perhaps the fact that italy will bring germany to its knees if they cant hold the line against the russians... i quote that guy in red alert "time vill tell... time vill tell...."

todays closing comment: italy has signed up on this forum, so if you have any complaints about italy sucking, message this guy j4zz
 
im not sure about you ppl, but we could sure use the input.
we plan on using the input for the next campaign. as in ask the public and act acordingly. so plz input tell us what you think was stupid thing to do and what was good
 
Great AAR, bumbling fools trying to rule the world is much better than something overly serious. Good luck with Russia. (By the way, hows your progress on "the bomb"?) Also, whats your MP and IC status?
 
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oh yeah the russian campaign...
I do NOT know what happend, i was working on the wolf packs had about 48 of em :D when the russians decided to attack.
the weird thing is that last time before they declared war on us they had 2x my army size i had about 85 divisions and the had about 169 the day of the attack tho as I had to pause the game to deploy the last wolfies before concentrating on the war i checked the army comparison and found out that i had about 120 divisions while russians had about 90 :confused:
now the ONLY explanation to this is an advanced theory of learning AI
the AI observed the italians and saw that for each division they lost they gained a new province, so it thought "if i loose some 70 divisions i will gain 70 german provinces".
now this theory could be 100% right but that would just prove the stupidity of the "learning AI" because italy had an older brother called germany, whome supplied them with techs, oil, rubber, coal and steel and even waged war for them when the africa campaign was going slow.

I have to say im disapointed with the russians for 2 reasons.
1. they started the war before the bomb was ready, who am i going to use it on now? the US? those americans are WAY behind us tech-wise and are still neutral
2. the entire russian campaign was so ill-organised and planned that it only took about 2 months for stalin to ask for bitter peace(we accepted).

one good thing about this campaign is the pincer-move (dunno how to spell it pincer... you know that tool)
we successfully aplied it with 3 panzer army of 8 divs each
one went head on and the other 2 went around cutting off the enemy, some 48 divisions sudcame due to lack of supplys.

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notice the corps name, with my favorite commander

word goes that the next strat meeting is not to be about attacking the US but about a new campagin with a diffrent set of nations.

todays closing comment: france is no longer in the chooes nation screen, we finally annexed it :D
 
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