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WingedLion14

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So after my most recent game, I thought of starting a new thread - post what seemed like good ideas at the time, but in the long run turned out to be utterly disastrous. To give an example (actually, multiple ones), I'll start.

I was playing King Robb in the Clash of Kings start, and things were going ridiculously well - I captured Lord Tywin in battle, and when Stannis won the throne, the fight became a whole lot easier because every one of his vassals (even Ser Davos!) joined me and abandoned him. Well, long story short, Tywin comes up to me demanding trial by combat, I go, "Hey, he's an old man, I'm Robb Stark, I'll fight him myself." Famous last words.

Now Bran inherits, gets assassinated by Roose Bolton. Now Rickon's the on throne.

Aegon takes King's Landing and becomes King; meanwhile, we're still knocking on the Red Keep, trying to take it. Eventually, we succeed and win our independence - so many Lords had supported us against Stannis, my Kingdom stretches from the Wall all the way down to the walls of King's Landing, as well as a few random Vale counties. After winning the war, I had taken Aegon prisoner, and because he hates me ridiculously, I execute him, so now the Khaleesi inherits.

We have a dual-kingdom system splitting Westeros - King Rickon in the North, the Trident, and half the Crownlands, and Queen Daenerys in the South, with most of the Vale, Dorne, the Stormlands, Casterly Rock, the Reach, etc. Things are going fine, with the sole exception that my vassals don't like me all that much - my guardian did a horrible job.

Dany decides she wants the Riverlands back, and she has dragons, so she wins. My vassals, however, not only don't support me in the war, they defect to the Iron Throne. Long story short - a few years later, and the Stark family holds County of Winterfell, and nothing else - all because I fought Tywin myself and killed Aegon.
 
Robb kind of sucks in duels. He's only a Trained Fighter. Grey Wind helps a bit, but it's still better not to risk him (though I did kill Victarion in a duel with Robb once. Gotta figure that was Grey Wind).
 
Especially when you can just feed Twyin to the Greatjon or something. If Robb dies early on in that scenario you are essentially screwed, so risking him directly in duels is hugely risky for the returns (prestige and a dead Tywin, who is probably more valuable in a cell anyway).
 
The North in ACoK is hard. No doubt about it.

If you want to RP, Sansa can lose her head very easily. Then, there is the Westerlands' armies, along with the Iron Isles. After that, whoever is on the Iron Throne will continue Joffrey's war. And then, there is the one-sided situation that is the Iron Throne under a strong leader. If the King of the Iron Throne can call in every LP to a war, you are done. Even without dragons, you surviving a Westerlands-Reach-Crownlands-Vale-Dorne-Stormlands alliance takes a miracle.
 
The North in ACoK is hard. No doubt about it.

If you want to RP, Sansa can lose her head very easily. Then, there is the Westerlands' armies, along with the Iron Isles. After that, whoever is on the Iron Throne will continue Joffrey's war. And then, there is the one-sided situation that is the Iron Throne under a strong leader. If the King of the Iron Throne can call in every LP to a war, you are done. Even without dragons, you surviving a Westerlands-Reach-Crownlands-Vale-Dorne-Stormlands alliance takes a miracle.

Just tried it again with the new patch just for kicks (I've never successfully won independence and kept the kingdom solid long enough to get a successor, so I figured it was as good a time as any). Things were going great - in a series of three battles, I literally destroyed the entire Westerland army to the point that the Lannisters were ousted from power, the Reach was bloodied so badly they swapped sides, and Stannis won the throne. Meanwhile, however, the ironborn are walking around the North like always before laying siege to Winterfell. No big deal, I think, they're only at 10% warscore...but before my army reaches the North, they take the castle, which gives an automatic 100%, and I lose.

During a civil war I revolt later to retake the throne but lose :(. Robb Stark......never gets any luck
 
Well at least in the story he was smart enough to not duel a lion and already die before even touching Jeyne Westerling or anything else in the Westerlands ^^