So Much For Restoring the HRE...

[Idle America]

P.S. shenanigans like that and the fact that the game is still very unpolished and basically in development despite being out for 5 years is why I personally never play in Ironman (since the achievements are available anyway).

Yeah, lesson learned. It's not cheating if the game's broken!

 

[FondMemberofSociety]

I wanted to do something different! I wanted to recreate, reform, and restore the HRE as an improvement on the Roman Empire, without the depravities and degeneracies of the old empire.

Very Gibbon-influenced comment aside, Catholicism simply means you spread far and wide the depravities and degeneracies of the new empire, lol.

 

[xking]

I wanted to do something different! I wanted to recreate, reform, and restore the HRE as an improvement on the Roman Empire, without the depravities and degeneracies of the old empire.

Why do that when you can establish an entirely new Empire? Surpass the Romans.

 

[GreyOgre]

Whether some of your kingdom titles aren't dejure doesn't matter.
Just don't be on confederate partition and only have one empire title. ^^

It's really handy if you go for WC or similar absurdities. Not because of the taxes or the inheritance, but because you get less rebellions.

I dont know if they patched it, but with a second empire title, you could even destroy the HRE and take the decision again - so you can dejure the whole world over time.

 

[SMiki Lorebringer]

Who creates the holy Roman empire when they could've just unified Italia and go for recreating the actual Roman empire?!

 

[GhostDanny]

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Holy as in the Pope needed to even sign off on it and only under very specific rules.
Roman?! More like German pretenders. Just like the Byzantine Greek pretenders.

Empire, yes it was an empire. I'll give you that.

 

[FondMemberofSociety]

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[Idle America]

Very Gibbon-influenced comment aside, Catholicism simply means you spread far and wide the depravities and degeneracies of the new empire, lol.

Who's Gibbon? And who said I was going to stay Catholic forever?

Turn the Pope's weapon against him! Lollards forever!

 

[Idle America]

Holy as in the Pope needed to even sign off on it and only under very specific rules.
Roman?! More like German pretenders. Just like the Byzantine Greek pretenders.

Empire, yes it was an empire. I'll give you that.

Best Christmas Ever: Pope Leo III crowned Charlemagne emperor, and Charlemagne gave him a severed human foreskin.

 

[vandevere]

Who's Gibbon?

Gibbon's the man who wrote this

 

[Idle America]

Gibbon's the man who wrote this

Ohhh, I was actually recommended that a few weeks ago, but forgot about it!

 

[apollo1989vieten]

Best Christmas Ever: Pope Leo III crowned Charlemagne emperor, and Charlemagne gave him a severed human foreskin.

he should have given the pope 200 pagan foreskins.

 

[FondMemberofSociety]

Who's Gibbon?

Edward Gibbon was the guy who wrote The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.
And since he blamed it on moral decay and degeneracy ...

 

[Idle America]

Edward Gibbon was the guy who wrote The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.
And since he blamed it on moral decay and degeneracy ...

"Decay" implies there was morality to begin with. The real question isn't "how did the Roman Empire fall", it's "how the hell did the Roman Empire last as long as it did??"