Individual ships

[Archangel85]

Won't this kill the speed on the game? I mean you are talking about massivle increasing the number of naval units. As we know, by midwar the game totally bogs down due to the huge number of land units. I know MDS has huge speed problems partly due to the number of units involved.

I thought MDS' Problem was the high IC number and the corresponding high ressource demand...

 

[Archangel85]

Show me a time period when the Germans (or any other power for that matter) had more than 25 submarines deployed simultaneously. MDow

May 1943.

 

[Archangel85]

I am a little uncomfortable about this single destroyer/submarine unit idea.

When I play most great marintime nations (Japan, USA, UK, also Italy and Canada) in vanilla, I often build an enormous number of destroyer flotillas - frequently in excess of 100, sometimes 200 - for reasons that range from stopping subs, to protecting high-value assets, to blockading enemy shores and owning the sea, to cheaply building up a large force and thus promoting all kinds of leaders (not just admirals, but army and airforce generals as well).

Now, if CORE makes destroyers single units, and thus (I suppose) each individual one cheaper, then each of the great marintime power could easily wind up with even more individual destroyer units, which will impose heavier CPU costs and requires more player managing. Changes to naval combat stacking modifiers, fine-tuning not merely strengths and costs but also visibility and sighting, a clear understanding of how players can use massed units to blockade, watch, own, and patrol - all have to be done if you go over to a single-unit approach. Similar comments apply to subs.

That would be more of a Multiplayer Problem, as the AI does not care if its a flottila or a single ship, if it build 70 Destroyer flottilas before, it will just build 70 single ships now. Lets wait and see how 0.1 does before judging the idea. If the AI builds to many navy units, building tables can still be altered...

 

[Archangel85]

So since capital/escorts ratio isn't changed, are you comfortable with the idea, that, say a fleet of 2 BB and 3 CA will/could be escorted by 5 DD only?

that sounds about historically accurate...