Interregnum's Post-Crusade Bavaria

unmerged(16159) · Oct 23, 2006

Bavaria also get two streams.

This one, started, discusses their loss in the crusade, and the break-up of any empire they have accumulated. They start by selling off land to nobles, to pay off the debts incurred as a result of going nowhere in Iberia.

#############################################################
# Crusade_Lost
# 440401 - 440499
# 440401 - loss of Provinces
# 440451 - The German Inquisition
# 440461 - Universities of Herecy
#############################################################

event = {
id = 440421
trigger = {
flag = crusade_lost
owned = { province = 345 data = BAY }
emperor = yes
NOT = { countrysize = 15 }
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " Friends with Money "
desc = " The House of Wittelsbach had lost money, support and political will after leading christian Europe to a failed Crusade, and Albrecht IV knew he needed friends if he was to secure an Imperial future for his son. When Philipp der Edelmütige of Pfalz offered unwavering support for his family in return for some control over his lands, the offer was gratefully accepted. In truth Albrecht was powerless to stop this change. "
date = { day = 1 month = june year = 1490 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1492 }

action_a = {
name = " We need his support "
command = { type = treasury value = 50 }
command = { type = independence which = PFA }
command = { type = relation which = PFA value = 100 }
command = { type = dynastic which = PFA }
command = { type = vp value = 5 }
}
action_b = {
name = " We demand the land and respect "
command = { type = badboy value = 1 }
}
}

event = {
id = 440422
trigger = {
flag = crusade_lost
owned = { province = 346 data = BAY }
emperor = yes
NOT = { countrysize = 15 }
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " Friends with Money "
desc = " The House of Wittelsbach had lost money, support and political will after leading christian Europe to a failed Crusade, and Albrecht IV knew he needed friends if he was to secure an Imperial future for his son. When Berthold of Mainz offered unwavering support for his family in return for some control over his lands, the offer was gratefully accepted. In truth Albrecht was powerless to stop this change. "
date = { day = 1 month = june year = 1490 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1492 }

action_a = {
name = " We need his support "
command = { type = treasury value = 50 }
command = { type = independence which = MAI }
command = { type = relation which = MAI value = 100 }
command = { type = dynastic which = MAI }
command = { type = vp value = 5 }
}
action_b = {
name = " We demand the land and respect "
command = { type = badboy value = 1 }
}
}

event = {
id = 440423
trigger = {
flag = crusade_lost
owned = { province = 347 data = BAY }
emperor = yes
NOT = { countrysize = 15 }
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " Friends with Money "
desc = " The House of Wittelsbach had lost money, support and political will after leading christian Europe to a failed Crusade, and Albrecht IV knew he needed friends if he was to secure an Imperial future for his son. When Eberhard VI of Urach offered unwavering support for his family in return for some control over his lands in Thuringen the offer was gratefully accepted. In truth Albrecht was powerless to stop this change. "
date = { day = 1 month = june year = 1490 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1492 }

action_a = {
name = " We need his support "
command = { type = treasury value = 50 }
command = { type = independence which = THU }
command = { type = relation which = THU value = 100 }
command = { type = dynastic which = THU }
command = { type = vp value = 5 }
}
action_b = {
name = " We demand the land and respect "
command = { type = badboy value = 1 }
}
}

event = {
id = 440424
trigger = {
flag = crusade_lost
owned = { province = 344 data = BAY }
emperor = yes
NOT = { countrysize = 15 }
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " Friends with Money "
desc = " The House of Wittelsbach had lost money, support and political will after leading christian Europe to a failed Crusade, and Albrecht IV knew he needed friends if he was to secure an Imperial future for his son. When Hermann IV offered unwavering support for his family in return for some control over his lands in Koln, the offer was gratefully accepted. In truth Albrecht was powerless to stop this change. "
date = { day = 1 month = june year = 1490 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1492 }

action_a = {
name = " We need his support "
command = { type = treasury value = 50 }
command = { type = independence which = KOL }
command = { type = relation which = KOL value = 100 }
command = { type = dynastic which = KOL }
command = { type = vp value = 5 }
}
action_b = {
name = " We demand the land and respect "
command = { type = badboy value = 1 }
}
}

event = {
id = 440425
trigger = {
flag = crusade_lost
owned = { province = 333 data = BAY }
emperor = yes
NOT = { countrysize = 15 }
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " Friends with Money "
desc = " The House of Wittelsbach had lost money, support and political will after leading christian Europe to a failed Crusade, and Albrecht IV knew he needed friends if he was to secure an Imperial future for his son. When Wilhelm I offered unwavering support for his family in return for some control over his lands in Hessen, the offer was gratefully accepted. In truth Albrecht was powerless to stop this change. "
date = { day = 1 month = june year = 1490 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1492 }

action_a = {
name = " We need his support "
command = { type = treasury value = 50 }
command = { type = independence which = HES }
command = { type = relation which = HES value = 100 }
command = { type = dynastic which = HES }
command = { type = vp value = 5 }
}
action_b = {
name = " We demand the land and respect "
command = { type = badboy value = 1 }
}
}

event = {
id = 440426
trigger = {
flag = crusade_lost
owned = { province = 343 data = BAY }
emperor = yes
NOT = { countrysize = 15 }
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " Friends with Money "
desc = " The House of Wittelsbach had lost money, support and political will after leading christian Europe to a failed Crusade, and Albrecht IV knew he needed friends if he was to secure an Imperial future for his son. When Heinrich III of Munster offered unwavering support for his family in return for his lands, the offer was gratefully accepted. "
date = { day = 1 month = june year = 1490 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1492 }

action_a = {
name = " We need his support "
command = { type = treasury value = 50 }
command = { type = independence which = MUN }
command = { type = relation which = MUN value = 100 }
command = { type = dynastic which = MUN }
command = { type = vp value = 5 }
}
action_b = {
name = " We demand the land and respect "
command = { type = badboy value = 1 }
}
}

unmerged(16159) · Oct 23, 2006

...then neighbouring lords demand a return of some estates, and the Emperor is powerless to resist.

event = {
id = 440431
trigger = {
flag = crusade_lost
owned = { province = 343 data = BAY }
emperor = yes
exists = MUN
NOT = { countrysize = 15 }
badboy = 6
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " Rivals with Influence "
desc = " The House of Wittelsbach had lost money, support and political will after leading christian Europe to a failed Crusade, and Albrecht IV knew he needed friends if he was to secure an Imperial future for his son. When Heinrich III demanded the returnof his historical possessions in Kleves, Albrecht could do little about it. "
date = { day = 1 month = june year = 1490 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1492 }

action_a = {
name = " We need his support "
command = { type = secedeprovince which = MUN value = 343 }
command = { type = relation which = MUN value = 50 }
command = { type = dynastic which = MUN }
command = { type = vp value = 5 }
}
action_b = {
name = " We demand the land and respect "
command = { type = badboy value = 1 }
command = { type = relation which = MUN value = -50 }
}
}

event = {
id = 440432
trigger = {
flag = crusade_lost
owned = { province = 372 data = BAY }
emperor = yes
exists = SWA
NOT = { countrysize = 15 }
badboy = 6
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " Rivals with Influence "
desc = " The House of Wittelsbach had lost money, support and political will after leading christian Europe to a failed Crusade, and Albrecht IV knew he needed friends if he was to secure an Imperial future for his son. When the young but influential Philip of Swabia demanded the return of his historical possessions in Baden, Albrecht could do little about it. "
date = { day = 1 month = june year = 1493 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 1 month = october year = 1495 }

action_a = {
name = " We need his support "
command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWA value = 372 }
command = { type = relation which = SWA value = 50 }
command = { type = dynastic which = SWA }
command = { type = vp value = 5 }
}
action_b = {
name = " We demand the land and respect "
command = { type = badboy value = 1 }
command = { type = relation which = SWA value = -50 }
}
}

event = {
id = 440433
trigger = {
flag = crusade_lost
owned = { province = 373 data = BAY }
emperor = yes
exists = SWA
NOT = { countrysize = 15 }
badboy = 6
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " Rivals with Influence "
desc = " The House of Wittelsbach had lost money, support and political will after leading christian Europe to a failed Crusade, and Albrecht IV knew he needed friends if he was to secure an Imperial future for his son. When the young but influential Philip of Swabia demanded the return of his historical possessions in Baden, Albrecht could do little about it. "
date = { day = 1 month = june year = 1493 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 1 month = october year = 1495 }

action_a = {
name = " We need his support "
command = { type = secedeprovince which = SWA value = 373 }
command = { type = relation which = SWA value = 50 }
command = { type = dynastic which = SWA }
command = { type = vp value = 5 }
}
action_b = {
name = " We demand the land and respect "
command = { type = badboy value = 1 }
command = { type = relation which = SWA value = -50 }
}
}

event = {
id = 440434
trigger = {
flag = crusade_lost
owned = { province = 332 data = BAY }
emperor = yes
exists = SAC
NOT = { countrysize = 15 }
badboy = 6
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " Rivals with Influence "
desc = " The House of Wittelsbach had lost money, support and political will after leading christian Europe to a failed Crusade, and Albrecht IV knew he needed friends if he was to secure an Imperial future for his son. When Friedrich III der Weise of Saxony demanded the return of his historical possessions in Anhalt, Albrecht could do little about it. "
date = { day = 1 month = june year = 1493 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 1 month = october year = 1495 }

action_a = {
name = " We need his support "
command = { type = secedeprovince which = SAC value = 332 }
command = { type = relation which = SAC value = 50 }
command = { type = dynastic which = SAC }
command = { type = vp value = 5 }
}
action_b = {
name = " We demand the land and respect "
command = { type = badboy value = 1 }
command = { type = relation which = SAC value = -50 }
}
}

event = {
id = 440435
trigger = {
flag = crusade_lost
owned = { province = 351 data = BAY }
emperor = yes
exists = HUN
NOT = { countrysize = 15 }
badboy = 6
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " Rivals with Influence "
desc = " The House of Wittelsbach had lost money, support and political will after leading christian Europe to a failed Crusade, and Albrecht IV knew he needed friends if he was to secure an Imperial future for his son. When Ulászló of Hungary demanded his historical possessions in Austria, Albrecht could do little about it. "
date = { day = 1 month = june year = 1493 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 1 month = october year = 1495 }

action_a = {
name = " We need his support "
command = { type = secedeprovince which = HUN value = 351 }
command = { type = relation which = HUN value = 50 }
command = { type = dynastic which = HUN }
command = { type = vp value = 5 }
}
action_b = {
name = " We demand the land and respect "
command = { type = badboy value = 1 }
command = { type = relation which = HUN value = -50 }
}
}

event = {
id = 440436
trigger = {
flag = crusade_lost
owned = { province = 379 data = BAY }
emperor = yes
exists = BUR
NOT = { countrysize = 15 }
badboy = 6
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " Rivals with Influence "
desc = " The House of Wittelsbach had lost money, support and political will after leading christian Europe to a failed Crusade, and Albrecht IV knew he needed friends if he was to secure an Imperial future for his son. When Philippe IV of Burgundy demanded his historical possessions in Artois Albrecht could do little about it. "
date = { day = 1 month = june year = 1493 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 1 month = october year = 1495 }

action_a = {
name = " We need his support "
command = { type = secedeprovince which = BUR value = 379 }
command = { type = relation which = BUR value = 50 }
command = { type = dynastic which = BUR }
command = { type = vp value = 5 }
}
action_b = {
name = " We demand the land and respect "
command = { type = badboy value = 1 }
command = { type = relation which = BUR value = -50 }
}
}

event = {
id = 440437
trigger = {
flag = crusade_lost
exists = BUR
core = { province = 378 data = BAY }
NOT = { countrysize = 15 }
badboy = 6
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " Rivals with Influence "
desc = " The House of Wittelsbach had lost money, support and political will after leading christian Europe to a failed Crusade, and Albrecht IV knew he needed friends if he was to secure an Imperial future for his son. When Philippe IV of Burgundy challenged his family's right to the estates of Brabant, Albrecht conceded the issue. "
date = { day = 1 month = june year = 1493 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 1 month = october year = 1495 }

action_a = {
name = " We need his support "
command = { type = removecore which = 378 }
command = { type = relation which = BUR value = 50 }
}
action_b = {
name = " We demand the land and respect "
command = { type = relation which = BUR value = -50 }
}
}

unmerged(16159) · Oct 23, 2006

aaahhh the dutch. They simply get uppity, and form independent states. I thought I would reawaken and old discussion, and form The Netherlands.

event = {
id = 440441
trigger = {
flag = crusade_lost
emperor = yes
badboy = 6
AND = {
owned = { province = 337 data = BAY }
owned = { province = 338 data = BAY }
owned = { province = 339 data = BAY }
owned = { province = 340 data = BAY }
}
NOT = { countrysize = 16 }
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " Dutch Revolts "
desc = " The Dutch traders, increasingly envious of the power wielded by the neighbouring Hanseatic States, began to assert their independence from the remote and powerless Bavarian king. Albrecht saw this as an opportunity to remove the committment of force and law, but retain some income from the cities. After much wrangling, Holland formed from the Councils of Amsterdam. "
date = { day = 1 month = june year = 1495 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 1 month = october year = 1497 }

action_a = {
name = " We need their support "
command = { type = independence which = HOL }
command = { type = relation which = HOL value = 100 }
command = { type = dynastic which = HOL }
command = { type = vp value = 5 }
}
action_b = {
name = " We demand the land and respect "
command = { type = badboy value = 1 }
command = { type = revolt which = 337 }
command = { type = revolt which = 338 }
command = { type = revolt which = 339 }
command = { type = revolt which = 340 }
}
}

event = {
id = 440447
trigger = {
flag = crusade_lost
owned = { province = 337 data = BAY }
emperor = yes
badboy = 6
NOT = { countrysize = 15 }
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " Dutch Revolts "
desc = " The Dutch traders, increasingly envious of the power wielded by the neighbouring Hanseatic States, began to assert their independence from the remote and powerless Bavarian king. Albrecht saw this as an opportunity to remove the committment of force and law, but retain some income from the city. "
date = { day = 1 month = june year = 1495 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 1 month = october year = 1497 }

action_a = {
name = " We need their support "
command = { type = independence which = FRI }
command = { type = relation which = FRI value = 50 }
command = { type = dynastic which = FRI }
command = { type = vp value = 5 }
}
action_b = {
name = " We demand the land and respect "
command = { type = badboy value = 1 }
command = { type = revolt which = 337 }
}
}

event = {
id = 440448
trigger = {
flag = crusade_lost
owned = { province = 338 data = BAY }
emperor = yes
badboy = 6
NOT = { countrysize = 15 }
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " Dutch Revolts "
desc = " The Dutch traders, increasingly envious of the power wielded by the neighbouring Hanseatic States, began to assert their independence from the remote and powerless Bavarian king. Albrecht saw this as an opportunity to remove the committment of force and law, but retain some income from the city. "
date = { day = 1 month = june year = 1495 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 1 month = october year = 1497 }

action_a = {
name = " We need their support "
command = { type = independence which = GEL }
command = { type = relation which = GEL value = 50 }
command = { type = dynastic which = GEL }
command = { type = vp value = 5 }
}
action_b = {
name = " We demand the land and respect "
command = { type = badboy value = 1 }
command = { type = revolt which = 338 }
}
}

event = {
id = 440449
trigger = {
flag = crusade_lost
owned = { province = 339 data = BAY }
emperor = yes
badboy = 6
NOT = { countrysize = 15 }
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " Dutch Revolts "
desc = " The Dutch traders, increasingly envious of the power wielded by the neighbouring Hanseatic States, began to assert their independence from the remote and powerless Bavarian king. Albrecht saw this as an opportunity to remove the committment of force and law, but retain some income from the city. "
date = { day = 1 month = june year = 1495 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 1 month = october year = 1497 }

action_a = {
name = " We need their support "
command = { type = independence which = HLL }
command = { type = relation which = HLL value = 50 }
command = { type = dynastic which = HLL }
command = { type = vp value = 5 }
}
action_b = {
name = " We demand the land and respect "
command = { type = badboy value = 1 }
command = { type = revolt which = 339 }
}
}

event = {
id = 440450
trigger = {
flag = crusade_lost
owned = { province = 340 data = BAY }
emperor = yes
badboy = 6
NOT = { countrysize = 15 }
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " Dutch Revolts "
desc = " The Dutch traders, increasingly envious of the power wielded by the neighbouring Hanseatic States, began to assert their independence from the remote and powerless Bavarian king. Albrecht saw this as an opportunity to remove the committment of force and law, but retain some income from the city. "
date = { day = 1 month = june year = 1495 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 1 month = october year = 1497 }

action_a = {
name = " We need their support "
command = { type = independence which = ZEE }
command = { type = relation which = ZEE value = 50 }
command = { type = dynastic which = ZEE }
command = { type = vp value = 5 }
}
action_b = {
name = " We demand the land and respect "
command = { type = badboy value = 1 }
command = { type = revolt which = 340 }
}
}

unmerged(16159) · Oct 23, 2006

...so that's again where we are.

I started writing Swabia, left that because of the unanswered questions raised by the start of the Reformation and their relationsship with Bavaria, and then discovered I couldn't write Bavaria without first writing the Papal States.

So I have 3 unfinished nations.

I want them all done by the end of the year, so I can "move on". I will probably have Bavaria and Papal States finished, (but untidy - sorry Mat) by the November 20 deadline.

Hopefully if I keep sending stuff slowly, it can be integrated and bug checked as we go.

Unfortunately, this is how slow it's going to go. I am really sorry it's not faster.

I will bug-check these events, and send them to MattyG today.

MattyG · Oct 24, 2006

mikl,

Already downloaded them from here.

A couple of quick ideas.

First, do you really need the emperor = yes trigger in all of these events? If the bavarians have lost the title since the crusade started, it would invalidate all these events.

I have also added the trigger NOT = { war = { country = BAY country = XXX } } to those events, as an event thanking Swabia whilst being at war with them doesn't make sense.

As for the Dutch, it simply needs to be the County of Holland, which can have some later events which expand it over other dutch-speaking areas. The County of Holland still exists at this time, being one of the many possessions/title of the House Wittelsbach.

I suggest that, rather than automatically making it independent, the event is something like this:

Event 1.

Bavaria is broke. The dutch possessions are rich. Tax the bastards (reducing inflation ).

Event 2. The dutch don't like the taxes. Surprise surprise, and there are stirrings of revolt.

Event 3. How do we deal with the anti-Wittelsbach sentiment, lord? Solution suggested is to grant the title to a distant dutch second cousin and re-establsh the County of Holland as a vassal with a large tribute: ie, let the dutch feel independent, still get the taxes, and not have to police it. Or action_b, supress, have revolts etc etc.

Matty

unmerged(16159) · Oct 24, 2006

MattyG said:
mikl,

Already downloaded them from here.

A couple of quick ideas.

First, do you really need the emperor = yes trigger in all of these events? If the bavarians have lost the title since the crusade started, it would invalidate all these events.

NO. I have been thinking that it could go. They WILL be emperor, anyway, since Albrecht is so long lived.

MattyG said:
I have also added the trigger NOT = { war = { country = BAY country = XXX } } to those events, as an event thanking Swabia whilst being at war with them doesn't make sense.

Good.

MattyG said:
As for the Dutch, it simply needs to be the County of Holland, which can have some later events which expand it over other dutch-speaking areas. The County of Holland still exists at this time, being one of the many possessions/title of the House Wittelsbach.

ok.

MattyG said:
I suggest that, rather than automatically making it independent, the event is something like this:

Event 1.

MattyG said:

Bavaria is broke. The dutch possessions are rich. Tax the bastards (reducing inflation ).

Click to expand...

yep.

MattyG said:

Event 2. The dutch don't like the taxes. Surprise surprise, and there are stirrings of revolt.

Click to expand...

starting to sound like IRL, between the dutch and the Spanish.

MattyG said:

Event 3. How do we deal with the anti-Wittelsbach sentiment, lord? Solution suggested is to grant the title to a distant dutch second cousin and re-establsh the County of Holland as a vassal with a large tribute: ie, let the dutch feel independent, still get the taxes, and not have to police it. Or action_b, supress, have revolts etc etc.

Click to expand...

Enter a very very young William the Silent... :rofl:

Like it Mat. I shall make it so.

MattyG · Oct 24, 2006

Aberration has it closer to IRL by having Holland as part of Bavaria. That's the real world history. If we wanted to be alternative, we'd have the dutch start as an independent county, as they were since 990.

Anyway, let me write this one up (I've already started) as you have very little time.

I'll also do the revolt listing and get the monarch file going, and a few other things.

Matty

MattyG · Oct 24, 2006

Here is my offering:

Code:

event = {
	id = 448001
	random = no
	province = 339
	trigger = {
		OR = {
			event = 881811
			event = 881812
			event = 881813
		}
		owned = { province = 339 data = BAY }
		NOT = { event = 448010 }	
	}
	name = "The Dutch Lenders"
	desc = "The Crusades had been expensive. While the political debt might take years to resolve, the fiscal debt was very much at the forefront of the king's financial backers. The wealthy dutch provinces and merchants had provided considerable backing for the venture, based on promises of gaining advantageous trading rights in the newly-liberated Iberian territories. How should we manage this debt? Increase taxation in Holland to help pay for it? It has been suggested that we grant the title of Count of Holland to a younger cousin, whose mother is from the old Holland nobility, and pass both independence and the Dutch debt to him to manage, on the expectation of tribute and obeissance."
	date = { year = 1490 }
	offset = 600
	deathdate = { year = 1491 }

	action_a = {
		name = "Grant the Title"
		command = { type = independence which = HOL }
		command = { type = dynastic which = HOL }
		command = { type = trigger which = 448130 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "Schedule payments and other concessions"
		command = { type = inflation value = 5 }
		command = { type = cash value = -100 }
		command = { type = domestic which = mercantilism value = -1 }
	}
	action_c = {
		name = "Increase taxes in the dutch provinces"
		command = { type = inflation value = -1 }
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 338 value = 2 }
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 339 value = 2 }
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 340 value = 2 }
		command = { type = setflag which = dutchtax }
	}
}
event = {
	id = 448002
	random = no
	province = 339
	trigger = {
		OR = {
			event = 881801
			event = 881802
			event = 881803
		}
		owned = { province = 339 data = BAY }	
	}
	name = "The Dutch Lenders"
	desc = "The Crusades had been expensive, and while victory has brought accolades and power to the emperor, there are debts to be paid, both political and fiscal. The wealthy dutch provinces and merchants had provided considerable backing for the venture, based on promises of gaining advantageous trading rights in the newly-liberated Iberian territories. Should we now honour those agreements, or else offer some other, minor concessions."
	date = { year = 1419 }
	offset = 600
	deathdate = { year = 1489 }

	action_a = {
		name = "Grant the concessions"
		command = { type = domestic which = mercantilism value = 2 }
		command = { type = trade value = -1000 }
		command = { type = provincetax which = 339 value = 1 }
		command = { type = relation which = ASU value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = LEO value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = PRT value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = POR value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = AMG value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = NAV value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = HSA value = -25 }
		command = { type = relation which = EIR value = -25 }
		command = { type = relation which = BRI value = -25 }
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -25 }
		command = { type = relation which = AQU value = -25 }
		command = { type = relation which = MES value = -25 }
		command = { type = relation which = SAV value = -25 }
		command = { type = relation which = SIC value = -25 }
		command = { type = relation which = GEN value = -25 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "Renege on those promises"
		command = { type = inflation value = 2 }
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
	}
}

# The non-Bavaria version

event = {
	id = 448010
	random = no
	province = 339
	trigger = {
		religion = catholic
		OR = {
			event = 881811
			event = 881812
			event = 881813
			event = 881832
			event = 881833
		}
		NOT = { owned = { province = 339 data = BAY } }
		flag = crusade_lost
		NOT = { event = 448001 }	
	}
	name = "The Dutch Lenders"
	desc = "The Crusades had been expensive. While the political debt might take years to resolve, the fiscal debt was very much at the forefront of the king's financial backers. The wealthy dutch provinces and merchants had provided considerable backing for the venture, based on promises of gaining advantageous trading rights in the newly-liberated Iberian territories. How should we manage this debt? Increase taxation in Holland to help pay for it? It has been suggested that we grant the title of Count of Holland to a younger cousin, whose mother is from the old Holland nobility, and pass both independence and the Dutch debt to him to manage, on the expectation of tribute and obeissance."
	date = { year = 1490 }
	offset = 600
	deathdate = { year = 1491 }

	action_a = {
		name = "Schedule payments and other concessions"
		command = { type = inflation value = 2 }
		command = { type = cash value = -40 }
		command = { type = domestic which = mercantilism value = -1 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "Grant the Title"
		command = { type = independence which = HOL }
		command = { type = dynastic which = HOL }
		command = { type = trigger which = 448130 }
	}
	action_c = {
		name = "Increase taxes in the dutch provinces"
		command = { type = inflation value = -1 }
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 338 value = 2 }
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 339 value = 2 }
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 340 value = 2 }
		command = { type = setflag which = dutchtax }
	}
}

# Dutch tax relieved

event = {
	id = 448120
	random = no
	province = 339
	trigger = {
		flag = dutchtax
	}
	name = "The Debt is Paid"
	desc = "The final payment has been made to the dutch lenders for that financially exhausting crusade. We can now lower the taxes imposed there."
	date = { year = 1500 }
	offset = 3000
	deathdate = { year = 1515 }

	action_a = {
		name = "Good"
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 338 value = -2 }
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 339 value = -2 }
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 340 value = -2 }
	}
}


event = {
	id = 448130
	random = no
	country = HOL
	name = "AI_Event"
	desc = "Not needed"
	
	action_a = {
		name = "Independence"
		command = { type = INF which = -2 value = 5000 }
		command = { type = CAV which = -2 value = 500 }
		command = { type = ART which = -2 value = 5 }
		command = { type = galleys which = -2 value = 5 }
		command = { type = warships which = -2 value = 5 }
		command = { type = transports which = -2 value = 2 }
	}
}

unmerged(16159) · Nov 10, 2006

Bavarian reactions to Bishop Luthers decision to allow the universties to teach humanism, which will lead to an Antipope.

#############################################################
# Universities of Herecy
#############################################################

event = {
id = 440461
trigger = {
flag = crusade_lost
emperor = yes
NOT = {
domestic = { type = innovative value = 7 }
}
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " The Universities of Herecy "
desc = " The Pope has used the Sixth Laternan Council to convince the Prince-Bishops to

support some of the humanist teachings in the the more heretical Universities in Il de France, Saxony

and Venice. In response, the Emperor Albrecht IV called the lower german Cardinals and demanded

of them a strict conservatist religious teaching. His influence was weak, and not all complied, and

many advised him against this action. Success however, would improve his autocracy and standing

among the clergy. "
date = { day = 1 month = september year = 1491 }

action_a = {
name = " Promote conservative teachings "
command = { type = diplomats value = -2 }
command = { type = infra value = 200 }
command = { type = DIP which = 1 value = 60 }
command = { type = domestic which = aristocracy value = 1 }
command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = -1 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -20 }
command = { type = relation which = BUR value = -20 }
command = { type = relation which = GEN value = -20 }
command = { type = relation which = SAC value = -20 }
command = { type = relation which = HAN value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = HUN value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = BRA value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = CRO value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = POL value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = THU value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = PFA value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = KOL value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = MAI value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = LAT value = 50 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
}
action_b = {
name = " Allow this, and watch moral decay "
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = infra value = -200 } #inaction
command = { type = DIP which = -1 value = 24 } #inaction
}
}

unmerged(16159) · Nov 10, 2006

...and then the Inquistion. Albrecht's Dominican fanatics which helped him in the Crusade, now demand the power to expel the heretics.

Thier persecution of the dutch trigger the dutch independence events posted earlier in this thread.

#############################################################
# The German Inquisition
#############################################################

event = {
id = 440482
trigger = {
NOT = {
domestic = { type = innovative value = 7 }
}
flag = crusade_lost
religion = catholic
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " The Jesuits "
desc = " When Albrecht used the fanatically religious leaders to motivate and lead his

armies during the Crusade, he had unwittingly allowed a quasi-military religious order to arise out of

this group, the Dominicans. Albrecht allowed them powers to protect the catholic religion, in return

for their prodigious revenue raising abilites. The alternative they offered him was to leave and set up

their schools in another land. "
date = { day = 1 month = february year = 1491 }

action_a = {
name = " I didn't expect the German Inquisition "
command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = -1 }
command = { type = infra value = 500 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
}
action_b = {
name = " I don't trust these guys "
command = { type = infra value = -500 }
command = { type = population which = 349 value = -5000 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 440482 } #The German Inquisition
}
}

event = {
id = 440482
trigger = {
event = 440481
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " The German Inquisition "
desc = " Just before the death of Sixtus, the Emperor's envoys had secured his approval

to conduct sweeping religious reforms in the Empire. The docment sat unused for nearly a decade

until the catholic fanatics, led by the Dominican monks who fought in the Crusade began to exert

their influence in the court of the Emperor. They demanded a pure and traditional teaching, and sent

priests into the streets of towns with strongly humanist leanings to ensure this. Albrecht was

unable to control the fanatics, and disaster befell his people. "
date = { day = 1 month = february year = 1492 }

action_a = {
name = " Hah, nobody expects the German Inquisition "
command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = -2 }
command = { type = domestic which = mercantilism value = 2 }
command = { type = population which = 337 value = -10000 }#Friesen
command = { type = population which = 338 value = -10000 }#Gelre
command = { type = population which = 339 value = -10000 }#Holland
command = { type = population which = 340 value = -10000 }#Zeeland
command = { type = population which = 344 value = -10000 }#Koln
command = { type = population which = 345 value = -10000 }#Pfalz
command = { type = population which = 346 value = -10000 }#Mainz
command = { type = population which = 351 value = -2000 }#Austria
command = { type = population which = 327 value = -2000 }#Ostmarch
command = { type = population which = 330 value = -2000 }#Sudenten
command = { type = population which = 329 value = -2000 }#Erz
command = { type = provincetax which = 337 value = 2 }
command = { type = provincetax which = 338 value = 2 }
command = { type = provincetax which = 339 value = 2 }
command = { type = provincetax which = 340 value = 2 }
command = { type = provincereligion which = 351 value = catholic }#Austria
command = { type = provincereligion which = 327 value = catholic }#Ostmarch
command = { type = provincereligion which = 330 value = catholic }#Sudenten
command = { type = provincereligion which = 329 value = catholic }#Erz
command = { type = provincereligion which = -1 value = catholic }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
}
}

event = {
id = 440483
trigger = {
event = 440482
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " The Dutch Inquisition "
desc = " With the dutch especially targeted in the Dominican inquisition, the local middle-

class merchant guilds reacted to the imposition of higher taxes, restrictions on their trade and

relatively high local governance. "
date = { day = 1 month = february year = 1494 }

action_a = {
name = " Let them burn "
command = { type = religiousrevolt which = 337 }#Friesen
command = { type = religiousrevolt which = 338 }#Gelre
command = { type = religiousrevolt which = 339 }#Holland
command = { type = religiousrevolt which = 340 }#Zeeland
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
}
action_b = {
name = " Give them back some control "
command = { type = provincetax which = 337 value = -1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = 338 value = -1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = 339 value = -1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = 340 value = -1 }
command = { type = domestic which = mercantilism value = -1 }
command = { type = trade value = 500 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 440441 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 440447 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 440448 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 440449 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 440450 }
}
}

MattyG · Nov 10, 2006

mikl,

I am not sure I understand the Dutch trigger and so forth. I thought you were going to use my alternative approach to the Dutch independence thing.

Then there's the issue of Eire. I don't think that - at least initially - Eire would break with the Pope. They need to go Protestant too. Later, when the antipope reaction begins, that's when the real soul-searching will happen.

One thing I like about this cycle is that the coutries which have it 'easy' in the reformation (Eire, Iberia, Burgundy) will now have it tougher.

Matty

unmerged(16159) · Nov 12, 2006

MattyG said:
mikl,

I am not sure I understand the Dutch trigger and so forth. I thought you were going to use my alternative approach to the Dutch independence thing.

Matty

I thought so too, but then changed my mind when I realised the unneccesary complexity of the coding.

Yhe assumption with my events are that the Prince insists upon his religion being followed, regardless of the provinces loyalties. Some princes are more powerful, and will be able to insist on more provinces following him, and others less powerful, will only be able to convinve their own capital. And some will get revolts, some won't. To some extent it''s a random outcome of a programmed history.

Happy to debate it and change it if required.

MattyG · Nov 13, 2006

mikl said:
I thought so too, but then changed my mind when I realised the unneccesary complexity of the coding.

Yhe assumption with my events are that the Prince insists upon his religion being followed, regardless of the provinces loyalties. Some princes are more powerful, and will be able to insist on more provinces following him, and others less powerful, will only be able to convinve their own capital. And some will get revolts, some won't. To some extent it''s a random outcome of a programmed history.

Happy to debate it and change it if required.

I don't really grasp either response here.

The coding for the dutch events was all there. All done in two events. hardly complex.

Do the other comments also relate to the Dutch, or to Germany?

unmerged(16159) · Nov 13, 2006

MattyG said:
I don't really grasp either response here.

The coding for the dutch events was all there. All done in two events. hardly complex.

Do the other comments also relate to the Dutch, or to Germany?

No, wait. Confusion arises from not reading your Reply correctly. My apologies.

My reply related to reformation events in Epochal_Religious file, which converts provinces held by Rpinces who choose to got Protestant. Nothing to do with the dutch, shouldn't have mentioned them. I will use your trigger. Lovely.

unmerged(16159) · Nov 28, 2006

Not fully fleshed out, and i have ommitted some of the preliminary events, but here is more of Germania. Might spring some debate.

#############################################################
# Germania
#############################################################

event = {
id = 440390
trigger = {
flag = crusade_won
OR = {
emperor = yes
countrysize = 18
}
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " Overture to an Emperor "
desc = " Heinrich Bebel, the poet and orator made a speech to the emperor echoing the thoughts of many of the intellectuals surrounding the great man, that Bavaria was Germany, and Germany was Bavaria. The time had come to assert it's independence from the laws of Rome. This would redefine the Empire. "
date = { day = 1 month = february year = 1494 }

action_a = {
name = " Yes, the Empire needs it's own laws "
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -10 }
command = { type = relation which = BUR value = -10 }
command = { type = relation which = SAV value = -10 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
}
action_b = {
name = " No, the roman laws are fine "
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 10 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 440392 }
}
}

event = {
id = 440391
trigger = {
flag = crusade_won
OR = {
emperor = yes
countrysize = 18
}
NOT = {
relation = { country = PAP data = 50 }
}
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " A High Court? "
desc = " The laws used in the Empire were roman laws, designed and judged by roman clerics, sometimes with important cases transfered to Rome itself. This infuriated a german people at a time of diplomatic dominance, and particularly bavarian nobles at a time of military dominance. Albrecht was advised to form a Rechtskammer, a legal system for the german peoples, independant of Roman law. The effect of such a system would slowly remove the king from a part of his power, but would bring him closer to an independant Germanic state. "
date = { day = 1 month = february year = 1496 }

action_a = {
name = " Form the Rechtskammer "
command = { type = treasury value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = BUR value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = SAV value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = SWA value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = SAC value = -20 }
command = { type = relation which = HSA value = -20 }
command = { type = relation which = BRA value = -20 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }}
command = { type = sleepevent which = 440394 }

}
action_b = {
name = " Continue to follow the Roman laws "
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 440393 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 440394 }
}
}

event = {
id = 440392
trigger = {
flag = crusade_won
OR = {
emperor = yes
countrysize = 18
}
relation = { country = PAP data = 50 }
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " A High Court? "
desc = " The laws used in the Empire were roman laws, designed and judged by roman clerics, sometimes with important cases transfered to Rome itself. This infuriated a german people at a time of diplomatic dominance, and particularly bavarian nobles at a time of military dominance. Albrecht was advised to form a Rechtskammer, a legal system for the german peoples, independant of Roman law. The effect of such a system would slowly remove the king from a part of his power, but would bring him closer to an independant Germanic state"
date = { day = 1 month = february year = 1496 }

action_a = {
name = " Continue to follow the Roman laws "
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 440393 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 440394 }
}
action_b = {
name = " Form the Rechtskammer "
command = { type = treasury value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = BUR value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = SAV value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = SWA value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = SAC value = -20 }
command = { type = relation which = HSA value = -20 }
command = { type = relation which = BRA value = -20 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 440393 }
}
}

event = {
id = 440393
trigger = {
flag = crusade_won
event = 440391
OR = {
emperor = yes
countrysize = 18
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " The High Rechtskammer "
desc = " Abrecht formed the High Rechtskammer, a high german court, which sent the Bavarian state spinning off from the ideals of the Holy Roman Empire, and away from the directions of an increasingly reformist and humaniist Papal court. The court however, was dominated by the self-interests of the nobles, and the conservative catholicism of the clerics. "
date = { day = 1 month = february year = 1501 }

action_a = {
name = " Form the Rechtskammer "
command = { type = treasury value = 100 }
command = { type = infra value = 500 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = gainbuilding which = -1 value = courthouse }
command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = -1 }
command = { type = domestic which = serfdom value = 1 }
command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = -1 }
}
action_b = {
name = " No, a step too far. "
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 440392 }
}
}

event = {
id = 440394
trigger = {
flag = crusade_won
event = 440392
OR = {
emperor = yes
countrysize = 18
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " The Low Rechtskammer "
desc = " Abrecht formed the Low Rechtskammer, a low german court, which dealt with most internal matters, and away from the directions of an increasingly reformist and humaniist Papal court. The court however, was dominated by the self-interests of the nobles, and the conservative catholicism of the clerics. "
date = { day = 1 month = february year = 1498 }

action_a = {
name = " Form the Rechtskammer "
command = { type = treasury value = 100 }
command = { type = infra value = 500 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = gainbuilding which = -1 value = courthouse }
command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = -1 }
command = { type = domestic which = serfdom value = 1 }
command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = -1 }
}
action_b = {
name = " No, a step too far. "
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 440392 }
}
}

event = {
id = 440395
trigger = {
NOT = {
owned = { province = 344 data = BAY }
}
OR = {
event = 440393
event = 440394
}
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " The Koln Agreement "
desc = " The position of the city of Koln was strategically important in the 15th century, and Albrecht assumed it would always be so. But when the city's traders applied yet again to join the Hanseatic League they did so through the Rechtskammer, and not by petition to the Emperor. In this critically defining moment for the covereignty of states and princedoms within the Empire. "
date = { day = 1 month = february year = 1498 }

action_a = {
name = " Allow this Claim "
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = gainbuilding which = -1 value = courthouse }
command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = -1 }
command = { type = domestic which = serfdom value = 1 }
command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = -1 }
}
action_b = {
name = " Allow them Independence "
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 440399 }
}
}

If albreacht doesn't contect the claim claim, then he opens the way for others steas to act outside the HRE, which then loses it's membership, and status, opening the way for the creation of a germanic uber-state, with cores everywhere.

HRE dies with reformation/?

event = {
id = 440399
trigger = {
OR = {
flag = crusade_won
countrysize = 20
}
owned = { province = 351 data = BAY } #Austria
owned = { province = 327 data = BAY } #Ostmarch
owned = { province = 350 data = BAY } #Salzburg
owned = { province = 348 data = BAY } #Ansbach
owned = { province = 372 data = BAY } #Wurttembrg
owned = { province = 347 data = BAY } #Wurzburg
owned = { province = 331 data = BAY } #Sachsen
owned = { province = 332 data = BAY } #Anhalt
owned = { province = 346 data = BAY } #Mainz
owned = { province = 345 data = BAY } #Pfalz
owned = { province = 344 data = BAY } #Koln
OR = {
AND = {
owned = { province = 343 data = BAY } #Kleves
owned = { province = 333 data = BAY } #Hessen
}
AND = {
owned = { province = 343 data = BAY } #Kleves
owned = { province = 373 data = BAY } #Baden
}
AND = {
owned = { province = 343 data = BAY } #Kleves
owned = { province = 311 data = BAY } #Magdeburg
}
AND = {
owned = { province = 373 data = BAY } #Baden
owned = { province = 333 data = BAY } #Hessen
}
AND = {
owned = { province = 373 data = BAY } #Baden
owned = { province = 311 data = BAY } #Magdeburg
}
AND = {
owned = { province = 333 data = BAY } #Hessen
owned = { province = 311 data = BAY } #Magdeburg
}
vassal = { country = BAY country = SWA }
}
NOT = {
badboy = 6
}
}
random = no
country = BAY
name = " Germania "
desc = " Buoyed by inning the Crusades, frustrated with Papal intrigue and laws, and the uncertainty of Holy Roman Empire elections, Albrecht knew the only way to secure land for his successors was to confirm by military right his possesions, and claim his land as a sovereign state. The concept of true nationhood was still 200 years aaway, but Albrecht had taken the first step to defining a national boiundary within a cultural indentity. "
date = { day = 1 month = june year = 1501 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 1 month = october year = 1508 }

action_a = {
name = " Create this Empire "
command = { type = clrflag which = crusade_won }
command = { type = flag which = germania }
command = { type = country which = GRM }
command = { type = addcore which = 372 } #Wurttemburg
command = { type = addcore which = 347 } #Wurzburg
command = { type = addcore which = 331 } #Sachsen
command = { type = addcore which = 332 } #Anhalt
command = { type = addcore which = 344 } #Koln
command = { type = addcore which = 343 } #Kleves
command = { type = addcore which = 333 } #Hessen
command = { type = addcore which = 373 } #Baden
command = { type = addcore which = 311 } #Magdeburg
command = { type = remove_countryculture which = dutch }
command = { type = vp value = 50 }
}
}

MattyG · Nov 29, 2006

OMG

Mike, this is some of your best thought-out material yet.

You have acknowledged here - critically, I think - what the ancient empires all believed, which is that law is the the basis of a society and that, hence, there can be no independent German state (or ideal) without a separate canon of distinctly German law.

I love even more that you have done it in stages, not as one holus bolus event, as is common in EU2 design.

Bravo!

unmerged(41688) · Nov 29, 2006

Looks very nice (I know nothing about events but I am looking a the effect here and it does look fun.) Noticed one typo though " Buoyed by inning the Crusades". Inning should be winning.

unmerged(16159) · Nov 30, 2006

hurricanehunter said:
Looks very nice (I know nothing about events but I am looking a the effect here and it does look fun.) Noticed one typo though " Buoyed by inning the Crusades". Inning should be winning.

No, this is correct. In the next event the Bavarians invent cricket, and rewrite their history in terms of "Innings", creating Vassals is renamed "Enforcing the Follow-on" and an Annexation is renamed "Series Victory"

:rofl:

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Attention is love.

unmerged(16159)

Eldermann

MattyG

Attention is love.

MattyG

Attention is love.

unmerged(16159)

Eldermann

unmerged(16159)

Eldermann

MattyG

Attention is love.

unmerged(16159)

Eldermann

MattyG

Attention is love.

unmerged(16159)

Eldermann

unmerged(16159)

Eldermann

MattyG

Attention is love.

unmerged(41688)

Banned

unmerged(16159)

Eldermann