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Hidden Legend

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What actions are required to keep the rulers stewardship ability high so that he does not loose his ability to control lands? It seems that when I am at war all my income drops and does not recover. Is this because my vassals are financing their soldiers and can not aford to pay me their dues, and my lands are financing my soldiers?

Does being at peace allow the ruler to increase their ability to control the demsene?
 
To my knowledge, your Intrigue does not go up and down depending on things like war or your vassals. It can go down as a result of events like madness, typhus, warts, smitten, delusional, etc.

Pretty much the stats your ruler has are what you get. When an event crops up, you can sometimes choose different options and to that extent you have some control over him, and also doing things like having him lead an army can have effects (he can become heroics, gain tactical abilities, be wounded, killed or captured, etc.)
 
Hidden Legend said:
What actions are required to keep the rulers stewardship ability high so that he does not loose his ability to control lands? It seems that when I am at war all my income drops and does not recover. Is this because my vassals are financing their soldiers and can not aford to pay me their dues, and my lands are financing my soldiers?

Does being at peace allow the ruler to increase their ability to control the demsene?
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The most obvious one:

Do you remember to demobilize after the war?

Income will plummet during wartime as it costs a fortune to mobilize your regiments. So remember to demobilize when you do not need them.

Vassal regiments are always free. The vassal lord will foot the bill.

Another reason could be that your enemy loots your provinces. If that is so, the provinces will get the 'Looted' trait (you can see this in the Province window), which I think is either -50% or -90% income. This can take some time to recover.

If your Intrigue score drops for some reason, you can see it on the Efficiency rating of your ruler. If you control more than you can, efficiency will drop and you will get less income. Effeciency below 80% is a bad thing (not just money-wise).
 
Realm duress does lower intrigue and thus your ability to control land effectively.

It's probably that you haven't demobilised the troops (a must, unlike in some other games) after the war. Check the armies page in the ledge (if you have DV) if you think you've lost an army somewhere.
 
Thanks, now for the noobiest question.

How do I join the Crusade?

The Pope says Deus Vault, it shows tghe Crusade symbol. My piety shows I have not joined the Crusade. The manuel implies all I have to do is declare war on the target. I do this but there is no change. Is there a join the crusade button somewhere?
 
Hidden Legend said:
Thanks, now for the noobiest question.

How do I join the Crusade?

The Pope says Deus Vault, it shows tghe Crusade symbol. My piety shows I have not joined the Crusade. The manuel implies all I have to do is declare war on the target. I do this but there is no change. Is there a join the crusade button somewhere?
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When the pope calls for a crusade its up to you if you will engage the infidels. You loose a monthly piety due to crusade expectations. The crusade ends when the popes objective are meet. Free Jeruslam, Alexandria etc..

If your small, and can live with the monthly piety loss if any, its up to you if its worth joining.

You get some piety when you control pagan/muslim land after the siege.
 
Hidden Legend said:
Ok so it is just inconvenience. Either join and get war expenses hit and rebelions, or have the Pope excomunicate you or require a huge bribe. How inconvenient. Thanks for the help.
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Well usually the only adverse effect of not joining is the loss of some piety. Since you can't click ona 'Join Crusade' button, there are no events firing about the Pope getting mad at you for not rallying under his banner.

But ofcourse if your piety goes too low and into negatives, you can get some nasty papal events.
 
Actually he threatened me with Excommunication. I had three choices. Bribe him a lot of money for piety to come back up, bribe him some money for a small amount of peity to come back up, or tell him I make war on people of my own choice. The first two options had a percent chance of excommunication also. There might have been a fourth option I cant remember.
 
Hidden Legend said:
Actually he threatened me with Excommunication. I had three choices. Bribe him a lot of money for piety to come back up, bribe him some money for a small amount of peity to come back up, or tell him I make war on people of my own choice. The first two options had a percent chance of excommunication also. There might have been a fourth option I cant remember.
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Well 'crusading' also means that you just have to be at war with the holder of the crusade-target. You can declare war on him, but then don't do anything and the Pope will not get mad at you.

This is especially a viable strategy if the holder of the crusade-target isn't a powerfull realm.
 
Hidden Legend said:
What actions are required to keep the rulers stewardship ability high so that he does not loose his ability to control lands? It seems that when I am at war all my income drops and does not recover. Is this because my vassals are financing their soldiers and can not aford to pay me their dues, and my lands are financing my soldiers?

Does being at peace allow the ruler to increase their ability to control the demsene?
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Stewardship you say? Are you playing an unpatched version? Was it 1.04 that changed demense limit to intrigue? I dont remember. Anyway, you should patch to 1.05.
 
Hidden Legend said:
The Pope says Deus Vault, it shows tghe Crusade symbol. My piety shows I have not joined the Crusade. The manuel implies all I have to do is declare war on the target. I do this but there is no change. Is there a join the crusade button somewhere?
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Well, as the others have said, no, there is no such button. But you don't need to formally "join" the crusade to do crusading, the game makes no such distinction between participants and non-participants. When a crusade goes on, all Catholic rulers who conquer infidel lands gain piety for it, not only those who have the Crusader trait. What the trait does is to multiply the piety gains by 5, but also multiplies the monthly crusade expectation piety loss by 5.
 
It is intrigue. I thought it was stewardship. However I have the latest patch on Deus Vault and am currently playing DVIP. I have worked it out and just keep forcing the choices that give me high Intrigue. I like that when you play as Leon you can have full control and no vassals. Perhaps I was excommunicated because the Pope hates Regal supremecy.

Question, how long does excommunication last for in game? I usually loose interest after about 4 years of vassal quelling, this in turn sends up BB and makes it harder to keep vassals.
 
Excommunication does not automatically expire, well, except that once you die, your successor doesn't inherit it but starts from a clean slate. The only way to actually get rid of excommunication is through certain events, whereby you either have to pay a humongous indulgence or become a crusader.

If you're having problems with accumulating BB due to vassal quelling, don't take the lands off the rebelling vassals. Instead, force-vassalize, and when you do, cede your claim on their land. In that case, you end up with a decrease in BB per vassal rebellion. If you're just going to force-vassalize him, you don't really need the claim. If the vassal rebels again, you get the claim back.
 
Hidden Legend said:
It is intrigue. I thought it was stewardship. However I have the latest patch on Deus Vault and am currently playing DVIP. I have worked it out and just keep forcing the choices that give me high Intrigue. I like that when you play as Leon you can have full control and no vassals. Perhaps I was excommunicated because the Pope hates Regal supremecy.

Question, how long does excommunication last for in game? I usually loose interest after about 4 years of vassal quelling, this in turn sends up BB and makes it harder to keep vassals.
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Excommunication ends when your ruler dies or through an event, there is no fixed time for it.

In Deus Vult rebelling vassals shouldn't lead to more BB, you just need to re-vassalize them that doesn't give any BB and if you have BB then giving up your claims on them at the same time will lower your BB.

If you still have trouble with keeping your vassals loyal, find a good chancellor.
 
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