List of Cheaters

[Minodrin]

I was just thinking it might be useful with a tread to list any players known to cheat. Ofcourse they can change their nickname at will, but still.

I'w heard on Valknet today that General Winter is a cheater, as he had Assembly Mass Production in Feb 1936 (and Polyutharne?), his infantry organization as Germany was 110 in May 36 (don't all doctrines take atleast half a year to finish?)

 

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Long List

Your going to have one hell of a thread then. Seems that the MP aspect of the game is a breeding ground for Ego's.


Thats what happens when you jump onto Valk and start a game up (if you can get on). by 1937 world is for the most part is conquered.

Putting a list up would just serve to enflame the situation, you will get back and forths on "that wasnt me" or "F you, I did the research"

Blah blah

Anyone that has played HOI for a minimum of 10 minutes knows its weaknesses and can exploit them, my advice is find a group of players that are decent and work on developing understanding within the group. If an issue comes up address it to the group, get it out there set up a house rule to deal with it and move on.

Random MP games is just asking for this type of problem, take a little time and organize a group, its a much better expirence.

Odin

 

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Originally posted by Minodrin

his infantry organization as Germany was 110 in May 36 (don't all doctrines take atleast half a year to finish?)

That assembly mass production in freb '36 seems very fishy, but those landdoctrines not. Mech HQ's takes 160 days, Elastic Defence Doctrine 140, Improved Maneuvre Art 160 so it is possible to have a very high org as Germany in May'36 (not sure about 110 though). I personally start as Germany to research land doctrines at start. I have had inf org almost as high as his in June '36.

 

[Minodrin]

Well, there is a difference between early wars and outright cheating. Assembly-Mass production in feb 36 is more than "Fishy" (even if he got the Miraculous breaktrough he shouldn't have yet another industrial tech on top of that).

Btw, what do you consider an exploit? Unless you want to play the historical timeline, why would having most of the world conquered 1937 (by the axis yes?) be an exploit?

 

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Clarification

Where did I say it was an exploit?

It isnt an exploit at all its a reality of the weak AI in HOI. I have no problem with people going for it, the point is is what is fun for you?

Like having WWII start in 1936 with all out war? Thats cool, I personally dont care for that scenario would rather play a somewhat historic game with some twists.

Thats a preference Min, I never said it was an exploit at all. Believe me I have done it and will probably have to do it in most of the MP games I play because if I dont someone else will unless there is a house rule set up for it.

I know that your post is about outright cheating. This conicides with it, the allies dont have the DOW ability to stop any expansion at all, so that aspect is an exploit if your the Axis or Commintern.

Is it a cheat? nope but its pretty dam close to one if you ask me. If the Allies had the ability to DOW from the start I would retract my supposition, but they dont.

As far as tweeking files for enhancements thats definately a cheat, I dont think there is any question about that. My point is very simple, there are more ways to cheat the AI in this game then tweek a tech file, if your the Axis or Commintern you can go nuts very early and take control of the world.

So given that that is a result of a weak AI and not a players skill, thats a cheat IMHO, some people call it an exploit....

Different word same result.

Odin

 

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Odin1970 is right, any thread that will inflame the population or partial population of this forum is not a good idea and will be closed. In addition, if you want to point out a cheater please supply proof that the person is cheating, take a screenshot. What you did in regard to General Winter is not acceptable and can be considered a person attack.

If you wish to play good HOI MP games make a list of people you enjoy playing with and play with them, just as Odin suggested. Thank You.

 

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Minodrin,

the cheaters thread is really a noble idea not to mention adding a whinybaby ie. Iwas italy and got my arse kicked by albania and f this and i quit.

but the problem is its too easy just to change your screen name so until paradox makes it so you cant this thread is unfortunatly worthless

 

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Good Players

Why not just post a list of players who keep in the spirit of the game. We all know the exploits, but it's no fun to take advantage of them.

I think a hall of fame, rather than hall of shame would be better - then there is an incentive for people want to make that list.

Use the Carrot, instead of the stick approach!!!

(I've got to stop hanging around with people who work in HR)

 

[Minodrin]

Hmm, that's a nice idea too, keeping a list of "noble" players. And they probably won't change their MP names either.

 

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and the cheates will change into the names of those "noble" players lol

 

[Minodrin]

So... either way, we're intercoursed*

*Does anyone know how vigilant the mod's are about cursing?

 

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The hall of fame idea is a excellent one and I fully support it, but is it possible to use the same screen name as someone else.


P.S. If the mods cared about profanity I would have been run out of here long ago

 

[Prince Eugene]

Originally posted by MARCEAUX II
The hall of fame idea is a excellent one and I fully support it, but is it possible to use the same screen name as someone else.


P.S. If the mods cared about profanity I would have been run out of here long ago

You may use the same screen name as someone else as long as they are not present in the game/channel already.