Major glitches with DV-IP

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I just started playing Crusader Kings again several days ago. I decided to download DV after reading all of the good comments on the forums. I then decided that while I was at it I would download one of the nifty sounding mods for the game posted on the forums in hopes of enhancing my game play experience further. I chose DV-IP and after installing everything I ran into several many problems.

I started out playing as the Duchy of Toulouse. The first problem I noticed had to do with the various options for for ecclesiastical authority vs monarchical authority. Two of the options were missing entirely and one of them was has some sort of strange name (I am away from my computer so I can't quote it exactly yet) that resembled the name of succession patterns more than bishop granting authority. At that point I decided that I would muddle through because it didn't seem to afflict the game too badly.

I then noticed an error with building roads in Toulouse. In Toulouse alone (I believe) it took 170 months to simply build a road. I thought that it might have been part of the mod or something until I realized that it was only that way in Toulouse. Even with that problem I decided to keep playing through.

Finally I had the opportunity to Crusade to Jerusalem. After nearly 10 years I still didn't have a penalty to piety. I alone went and took back Jerusalem but that didn't end the call to Crusade or do anything but sabotage my reputation which resulted in i being reduced to -5ish. At that point I was pretty bummed about the glitches I was encountering.

That is when I started to notice that I began getting events (multiple times for each person and several times a month) that randomly reduced the stats of my children by 0-5. The dozens of these I received made exceptional children mediocre and everybody else worthless.

The last glitch I noticed came from my vassals. Despite being at 100% loyalty my vassals who were children of my ruler would randomly become independent without any notification being given to me or giving me a claim on their titles.

I am using Vista
I downloaded DV and upgraded it to the newest upgrade
I then modded with DV-IP and the more kingdoms mod as well.

If anybody has any idea about what is going on please let me know. Is there any way by which I can go about fixing all of these problems?

 

[Galliun]

Doesn't DVIP already have the More Kingdoms mod?

The Crusade thing has nothing to do with DVIP. Just because you captured the target, doesn't mean it's over. You can make the event trigger faster if you clear the area around the target, but it still isn't instantaneous, it takes a bit of time. Be patient.

The events that reduce stats are in DVIP, those are not bugs. It also happens with the computer. It exists so there are no uber-beings by 1300. Normally, a 17 in one skill wasn't that big of a deal, and that's absurd, since the common man has, if I'm not mistaken, 7 to 8 in each? This sub-mod (heh) balances that out a bit. Makes it MUCH better, IMO. But I think you can disable it, if you really want to.

DVIP also has the Break Free mod. If you rule over, let's say, Brittany, and have random vassals in Sicily, they are obviously not very connected with the rest of your realm. So, this sub-mod fixes that, making it more probable that random vassals like that break free and probably find a closer liege.

Edit - No idea about the rest.

Edit 2 - Aha, I think I know about the first. The one that shows up is just so women can inherit. I never choose it, but hey. Options are always good. You can scroll down the list to see the options that got bumped down.

And giving it a shot on the other question, isn't Toulouse afflicted by some disease? Maybe revolt? Everything (bar money modifiers, like Rich, Normal and Struggling) affects the Build time by 900%, if I'm not mistaken.

 

[kadvael56]

I started out playing as the Duchy of Toulouse. The first problem I noticed had to do with the various options for for ecclesiastical authority vs monarchical authority. Two of the options were missing entirely and one of them was has some sort of strange name (I am away from my computer so I can't quote it exactly yet) that resembled the name of succession patterns more than bishop granting authority. At that point I decided that I would muddle through because it didn't seem to afflict the game too badly.

The monastic supremacy law was modified to allow female inheritance if you choose it.

I then noticed an error with building roads in Toulouse. In Toulouse alone (I believe) it took 170 months to simply build a road. I thought that it might have been part of the mod or something until I realized that it was only that way in Toulouse. Even with that problem I decided to keep playing through.

I think there must be a disease in the province, or there was one when you started the construction. If there is no longer an illness stop the construction and restart it.

Finally I had the opportunity to Crusade to Jerusalem. After nearly 10 years I still didn't have a penalty to piety. I alone went and took back Jerusalem but that didn't end the call to Crusade or do anything but sabotage my reputation which resulted in i being reduced to -5ish. At that point I was pretty bummed about the glitches I was encountering.

In DV even without the improvement pack you get badboy for attacking heathens, it was done to avoid a quick world conquest. There is an exploit however, if you vassalise the heathen and give up the claim you gain the province as a vassal and you reduce your badboy.

That is when I started to notice that I began getting events (multiple times for each person and several times a month) that randomly reduced the stats of my children by 0-5. The dozens of these I received made exceptional children mediocre and everybody else worthless.

In CK the stats were much lower than in DV, these events were added to have the same values, you can still remove these events if you like.

The last glitch I noticed came from my vassals. Despite being at 100% loyalty my vassals who were children of my ruler would randomly become independent without any notification being given to me or giving me a claim on their titles.

That may come from the DVIP break free events. They may not have your ruler's culture or they are in another area. Or maybe they inherited a title previously held by someone from another realm.

 

[jordarkelf]

Hi T, I'm sorry to hear you had some problems.
Did you perhaps not read the readme?

The first problem I noticed had to do with the various options for for ecclesiastical authority vs monarchical authority. Two of the options were missing entirely and one of them was has some sort of strange name (I am away from my computer so I can't quote it exactly yet) that resembled the name of succession patterns more than bishop granting authority.

By design if you also use the add-on. One ecclesiastical law was reused to allow for female inheritance.

In Toulouse alone (I believe) it took 170 months to simply build a road.

Vanilla issue: this sounds like there was a disease or other problem in the province. Check its modifiers on the province view.

Finally I had the opportunity to Crusade to Jerusalem. After nearly 10 years I still didn't have a penalty to piety. I alone went and took back Jerusalem but that didn't end the call to Crusade or do anything but sabotage my reputation which resulted in i being reduced to -5ish. At that point I was pretty bummed about the glitches I was encountering.

Vanilla issue: that's how crusades work, The end event can take a long time to fire. To increase the chance of it firing, try to convert Jerusalem and the surrounding provinces.

That is when I started to notice that I began getting events (multiple times for each person and several times a month) that randomly reduced the stats of my children by 0-5. The dozens of these I received made exceptional children mediocre and everybody else worthless.

By design. Without this, all children grow up with stats over 8 in 3 or more skills, which breaks all stat checks. The uberstats are an unpatched DV bug: in CK, very few characters have 8 or more in more than 2 stats, but in DV without a mod like this almost every child will grow up to be stronger than the best warrior who ever lived.

The last glitch I noticed came from my vassals. Despite being at 100% loyalty my vassals who were children of my ruler would randomly become independent without any notification being given to me or giving me a claim on their titles.

Impossible to tell what happened. If they became independent by event, you will have gotten a notification. Did you perhaps give them a title of the same level as your own? A count cannot have count vassals, a duke cannot have duke vassals, a king cannot have king vassals. It is also possible that they created the titles themselves, if they owned enough provinces.

I am using Vista

Did you install the game in C:\Program Files ? If so, then likely that is the cause of some problems.
Games that are modded cannot be in Program Files. I highly recommend you reinstall in C:\Games instead.

I downloaded DV and upgraded it to the newest upgrade
I then modded with DV-IP and the more kingdoms mod as well.

By 'More kingdoms' I hope you mean the add-on -- if you actually got the old 'More kingdoms' mod from somewhere, you're running a hybrid of the current and a really old version!