Manual

[COGlory]

Ok...I know that the tutorials in Vicky 2 were supposedly much better (my copy has been delayed, so I don't know yet) but I was still sorely disappointed to hear that the manual is on a CD.

One of the higher priced Paradox games yet, and we don't get a paper manual? I mean, I still consult my EU3 and HoI 3 manual, and it's one of the top reasons I buy a hard copy. I like being able to reference it while playing, and I can't stand having to read a computer one. (Kills my eyes, and patience.)

So it's probably kind of early to ask this, but what are your plans regarding a CK manual?

 

[Woody Man]

I got a paper manual, and the tutorials are far far better.

But then, considering that the CK tutorial consisted of two out of date screens,
CK2's will undoubtedly be far far better.

 

[COGlory]

I got a paper manual, and the tutorials are far far better.

With Vicky 2?

From their site:

Included in the retail box is a large printed worldmap, a printed techguide and manual as pdf on the disc.
The retail box will have Forum codes that gives access to the Victoria 2 Strategy Guide when the game is released.

Even if the tutorials are good, they're no replacement for a solid books of Paradox goodness.

 

[Woody Man]

With Vicky 2?

From their site:



Even if the tutorials are good, they're no replacement for a solid books of Paradox goodness.

Haha wow, my bad, it is a printed tech guide, I pretty much opened the box, said 'Oooh manual' without looking at it, and then checked the map. I tend to agree, though on printed manuals, nothing beats something like the Caesar III manual.

 

[Tobear]

nothing beats something like the Caesar III manual.

Or the CivIV manuals. Or the manual of the F16 Falcon flight simulator. After reading (and understanding) this book you were able to pilot a F16 in real life.

 

[COGlory]

I don't even want something that complicated (I do have a Civ manual though), just a manual so we can enjoy the game.

 

[A_Dane]

Personally, i don't care much for paper manuals, they kill trees, and will most likely be outdated quite fast (if we are to take the way EU3 evolved that is).

If you got it on a computer, you can in most instances just search for the keyword you're looking for, speeding things up a little.

But that might just be me, since i constantly pause & go looking up stuff on the internet if something in the game has caught my eye.

 

[COGlory]

So...launch the game, realize that you don't know something, shut down the game, search on the internet, start the game up, and repeat the cycle every few minutes? I still reference my EU3 manual for various things, though it IS a bit outdated. My EU1 manual taught me how to play the game.

We're already paying more for Paradox games then ever before.

Make no mistake, I pre-ordered Vicky, and will pre-order this as well.

Will I be able to play them, and get into them? Most likely not as much as EU3, and HoI 3... (Which I bought a boxed copy of just to get the manual, because I found it impossible to learn without the manual.)

 

[Woody Man]

Or alt-tab, though I always play windowed now.

 

[COGlory]

Games always crash when I alt-tab for some reason. :?

 

[trajan]

We're already paying more for Paradox games then ever before.

Did it cost more to preorder? Because I ordered Vicky II from Gamers Gate the day it was released and paid $39.99. Not unreasonable at all, and in fact on the low end for a newly released game.

 

[namuseta]

the reason why no paper manual is simple ... it gets old really fast with patches.

 

[Alexspeed]

Think of the trees saved

 

[COGlory]

Did it cost more to preorder? Because I ordered Vicky II from Gamers Gate the day it was released and paid $39.99. Not unreasonable at all, and in fact on the low end for a newly released game.

I'm not saying it's not reasonable, I'm merely saying that it's more then before.

$40 for a Paradox game is about right.

 

[tuore]

I'm not saying it's not reasonable, I'm merely saying that it's more then before.

$40 for a Paradox game is about right.

HoI3 cost $40 when it was released. Only the fanmade games and expansions have been $20.

 

[Orinsul]

im still using my Victoria Manual, although mostly for the shortcut key chart on the back. but when i got it, i sat down a read it, i cant imagine ever doing that with a pdf manual, theyre bloody awful to read, you might as well not have one at all if its only digital.

 

[COGlory]

HoI3 cost $40 when it was released. Only the fanmade games and expansions have been $20.

Really? It was $30 at my Walmart.

im still using my Victoria Manual, although mostly for the shortcut key chart on the back. but when i got it, i sat down a read it, i cant imagine ever doing that with a pdf manual, theyre bloody awful to read, you might as well not have one at all if its only digital.

This is what I mean. I can't sit there and read a PDF manual. Unless I print it, I can't use it as a reference during gameplay, and finally, I can't "collect" them.

 

[SAS]

Think of the trees saved

*shhhhh its a secret* Trees grow back.

On a lighter note I remember seeing a link that Kallocain put up about players being able to order paper manuals and strategy guides.

 

[DeathAndDecay]

I think it would be great if PI could implement a service through their new boxed game store, whereby players could order standalone print versions of the manuals.

That way, I could buy a new or old game through digital download, achieve that instant gratification once the download is complete, and then later on, I could choose to order a paper manual through the website and have it delivered to my door.